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Monday, December 19, 2011

So How Do We Help the North Koreans? By Learning From Experience With China and Africa...


  • Actual excerpted conversation with names censored for privacy. Just a reminder that we don't want to further shell shock and impoverish the transitioning North Koreans:


  • this...child's ignorance makes me sick.


      •  Agreed. That makes him just look disgusting and heartless. Ignorant people gross.



      • I cannot believe there are people out there that legitimately feel like this.


      •  I would be ashamed to be an American if we turned our backs and ignored the starvation of people especially children in other countries when we had the means to help. American or Somalian we are all human.


      • I hope that stupid fucker gets shot

      • I don't hope he gets shot. However I definitely hope he gets shipped to Somalia. Mayhap then he'd do something meaningful with his life, make an impact and do humanity some good.


      •  Ignorant dumb shits like that never change, and will never make a difference.


      • Sadly if someone can say something like that about starving children and be so heartless, he will probably always have that mentality. I hope he comes across people who treat him they way he treats them so he can have a taste of his own medicine.


      •  that's more then likely due to the fact that people come at them with comments like that. You have to educate and inform, not throw around death wishes and insults. If he were to visit that country, I could almost guarantee his tune do a 180.


      •  It's an incredibly sad fact that people with that mindset exist. I definitely agree on that. It pisses me the fuck off..


      • Agreed.


      •  That guy is a horrible person. In, like, the essence of the word.



      • He pointed out we shouldn't help them due to the fact they didn't 'ask'. I am wondering...how the hell do they ask? Write an email with their non existent internet? Send a letter with there probable illiteracy? Call the president up? What the hell!!


      • Somalia hasn't had a functioning government since 1993. So.... yeah. Obviously, what with all their means of communication and stable social conditions, it's totally the Somalians' fault for not asking.

        What a fucking idiot.



      • Correction: no functioning government since 1991.


      • Well other than the warlords who run the various pirate gangs they have no functioning government.


      • Seriously, why should we help starving malnourished children you ask? BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING PEOPLE! Children nonetheless!!! This makes me facepalm so hard.


      • Okay, you all are jumping on him for STATING HIS OPINION. Remember this, just because you all have different views, does not mean that one person is right over the other person.


      • ...

      • While I do agree that his post was a little on the cold side, people still need to look at it from both sides, or else we will become the "Ignorant Dumb Shits" in being one minded. Also he does bring up a good point on natural selection...

      • WOW... really, educate yourselves please.:(



      •  
        An opinion like this is awful. It doesn't matter what compares or not. It's the fact that people are suffering and someone can look at that and say 'who cares? this is meant to happen so let it.'
        It's one thing to think that about a civil war, or a natural disaster, still fucked but more understandable. But these are children. There is nothing RIGHT about thinking this is alright.
        This is a UNIVERSAL WRONG. There is no 'other side' to see here.
        3 hours ago ·  ·  2
      • Nicole Czarnecki ...'s probably a Ron Paulite.
        3 hours ago · 
      • ...
        actually, we are right, and he (and you) are wrong. Just because a person has a different opinion doesn't make it a VALID opinion.
          ·  1
      • Nicole Czarnecki ‎"Things Fall Apart" gives the perspective, however, that there were some ways where we overreached or allowed overreaching and didn't let the Africans help themselves within the context of what actual help we were giving them. In other words, we went too far with the religious and political proselytizing. We should've let the Africans choose their culture, and we contributed to much of the Third World Africanism in that way.
        4 minutes ago · 
      • Nicole Czarnecki Another book on a similar vein is "The Good Earth", based on Pearl S. Buck's watching where we overreached in Asia. So, the one point that at least the (you can fill in the blank)s like ... affected the bringing up of is that we only made some Third Worldism worse by religiously and politically overreaching.


    What the Ron Paulite said is that Africa is naturally selected for doom and failure, thus we shouldn't help them in any way, shape, or form. Some could argue the same for North Korea and Pyongyang. But just because all the nations except Israel (including the US, the Kushite nations, and the Koreas) will indeed be made an end to (cf. Jeremiah 30:11)  does not excuse an abandonment of tikun ha'olam. Yet in no way should religious and political proselytizing, including Torah el hagoyim v'Mamlahkah Adonai, be done but b'Adonai yachid. As I said, "We should've let the Africans choose their culture" and not made proselytization a condition or an incentive for helping them. The same is with the North Koreans.

    The best that we can do is say:

    “Now therefore, fear the LORD, serve Him in sincerity and in truth, and put away the gods which [the Hebrews'] fathers served on the other side of the River and in Egypt. Serve the LORD! And if it seems evil to you to serve the LORD, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which [their] fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land [they would] dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.” 

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