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Saturday, December 17, 2011

In Response To Analytical Adam (And Watch the Negative Reaction Which I Talked About Pour In)...

This blog entry is going to be carefully broken down and responded to one by one, point by point:


  • "To respond to this I do think  a persons followers do shed some reflection on the individual. Either these people weren't really his followers or in some ways he did promote that certain ideas of the Jewish bible were heartless and evil and Jesus's ideas were better. Of course they take from the Jewish bible when they want to.   Not sure where his followers would somehow twist his ideas to this degree and truly be his followers."
I don't think that Adam's ever tried reading Galatians 1:6-12 and Romans 7:4-25, has he? Adam's commenter also has not read the same (See the comment on Adam's blog entry.).

  • "You hear that about some Jewish leaders as well that their followers twisted their words and many times that really isn't the case as some Rabbis think they have more compassion then God does and God is evil and harsh until they the Rabbi came along and they also just pick and chose from the bible and not try to understand why in certain situation God was fairly harsh and in some other cases it is not literal and to know this you have to know Hebrew which thankfully I know.  " 
First of all, Adam, slow down and breathe. Secondly, Jesus said right out that He was doing only what the Father (G-d-- that is, G-d the Father) told him to do. And if you know Hebrew, then why do you ignore that "echad" and "Elohim" are plural and refer to a pluralunity?

  • As someone Jewish who is been picked on for this I have to say that my view is that Christianity and Jesus certainly brought the ideas of the Jewish bible into circulation which since the Jewish people in their own way distorted their religion that it seemed odd to most people because of the ways they distorted it this was needed for some group to bring these ideas to non-Jews as well although some of these people as well had their imperfections. 
At least Adam is not an Antimissionary like Skylar Curtis (who, as a ger, has hutzpah to be telling Yehudim and goyim alike not to even consider Jesus).

  • I do think that it is wrong to worship Jesus as God and I do think it distorts God since God is one and both male and female unlike humans who God separated the full being when God took the rib out of Adam and formed Eve.  And I see that it is easier for women to worship Jesus and the reason is because Jesus was a man and it is natural for a woman to love a man and be their helpmate.  But not some religious figure to take the place of a husband.  This distorts male-female relations in a bad way. 
I already talked about Adam ignoring the Hebrew that he claims to know. Adam v'Chava were echad per Beresheet 2:24, by the way. Also, what does Adam make of this from Hoshea 2?

 2 “Bring charges against your mother, bring charges;
      For she is not My wife, nor am I her Husband! 
      Let her put away her harlotries from her sight, 
      And her adulteries from between her breasts; 
       3 Lest I strip her naked 
      And expose her, as in the day she was born, 
      And make her like a wilderness, 
      And set her like a dry land, 
      And slay her with thirst. 
       4 “ I will not have mercy on her children, 
      For they are the children of harlotry. 
       5 For their mother has played the harlot; 
      She who conceived them has behaved shamefully. 
      For she said, ‘I will go after my lovers, 
      Who give me my bread and my water, 
      My wool and my linen, 
      My oil and my drink.’ 
       6 “ Therefore, behold, 
      I will hedge up your way with thorns, 
      And wall her in, 
      So that she cannot find her paths. 
       7 She will chase her lovers, 
      But not overtake them; 
      Yes, she will seek them, but not find them.
      Then she will say, 

      ‘ I will go and return to my first husband, 
      For then it was better for me than now.’ 


Is G-d trying to get women to have Him take the place of a husband? Why does Adam ignore metaphors and context?

And this?

Psalm 112

The Blessed State of the Righteous
 1 Praise the LORD!
         
         Blessed is the man who fears the LORD, 
         Who delights greatly in His commandments. 
         
 2 His descendants will be mighty on earth;
         The generation of the upright will be blessed.
 3 Wealth and riches will be in his house,
         And his righteousness endures forever.
 4 Unto the upright there arises light in the darkness;
         He is gracious, and full of compassion, and righteous.
 5 A good man deals graciously and lends;
         He will guide his affairs with discretion.
 6 Surely he will never be shaken;
         The righteous will be in everlasting remembrance.
 7 He will not be afraid of evil tidings;
         His heart is steadfast, trusting in the LORD.
 8 His heart is established;
         He will not be afraid, 
         Until he sees his desire upon his enemies. 
         
 9 He has dispersed abroad,
         He has given to the poor; 
         His righteousness endures forever; 
         His horn will be exalted with honor.
 10 The wicked will see it and be grieved;
         He will gnash his teeth and melt away; 
         The desire of the wicked shall perish.

Who has zerah m'ha'aretz? Look at this part of Yesha'yahu 53:

 10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise Him; 
      He has put Him to grief. 
      When You make His soul an offering for sin, 
      He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, 
      And the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand. 
       11 He shall see the labor of His soul,[b]and be satisfied. 
      By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many, 
      For He shall bear their iniquities. 
       12 Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great, 
      And He shall divide the spoil with the strong, 
      Because He poured out His soul unto death, 
      And He was numbered with the transgressors, 
      And He bore the sin of many, 
      And made intercession for the transgressors.

And since "Vai'yivra Elohim et-ha'adam b'tzalmov, b'tzelem Elohim bara otov", who is to say that G-d could not have become Man, as "the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth."?



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