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Showing posts with label avodah_zarah. Show all posts
Showing posts with label avodah_zarah. Show all posts

Tuesday, January 15, 2013

Why Anti Messianics Get Away With Their Persecutory Behavior

We have "turn the other cheek" interpreted incorrectly! As I've said, Turning the other cheek is not being a doormat. In fact, read Luke 22:35-38. There was no being a doormat there. Also, read 1 Timothy 1:18-20 and 1 Corinthians 5:1-5. There was no being a doormat and letting inappropriate behavior go on there.

Of course, not being a doormat doesn't mean doing things in the name of Jesus which would turn Anti Messianics further away from the Gospel. Doing what Nicolas Donin, Solomon "Pablo de Santa Maria" HaLevi, Torquemada, Pablo Christiani, and others did is unacceptable. Besides, you can't ever force anyone to convert, anyway--my Anusi relatives being cases in point.  

Nonetheless, do what I did to Leah and don't pull any punches: alert his or her "rabbi"After all, no Anti Messianic has the right to contact us "dead" and "idolatrous" Messianic Jews according to halakhah or the Old Covenant. The only reason that the Anti Messianics are getting away with persecution is because Messianics think that we're to be doormats.

Also, deal with Anti Messianics at the kehillah level first. Then bring in the law outside of their and/or your kehillot if you have to. In my case, for example, Leah threatened to hack into my computer and track my private medical information; so I warned her that she could be criminally liable under HIPAA, MIPSA, and various other UK and US laws--including cyber laws. Leah also harassed various Messianics--including myself--and the Rosh Pina Project Website; so she's in violation of UN, UK, US, and cyber laws--including laws regarding freedom of religion, conscience, and thought (and the UK adheres more strictly to UN law than does the US). 

By the way, Leah claimed to be not Orthodox--even though she does go to an Orthodox synagogue (I won't say where, and I contacted her "rabbi".). Given that she's apparently not Orthodox and thinks that she doesn't have to follow Orthodox halakhah--or not deceive her synagogue and kehillah--, she may want to check Reform halakhah--e.g., Responsa 67 and 150. Reform halakhah also states that we're considered to be dead and apostate, and Reform Judaism is followed in the UK as well as the US. Furthermore, Masorti (Conservative) Judaism--among other denominations of Non-Messianic Judaism--say the same thing, and they are as followed outside of the US as well as inside of the US.

In conclusion, turning the other cheek simply means to not be a pogromist, Crusader, or Inquisitor. The Anti Messianics, thus, should not be able to perceive or use Messianic Jews as doormats. Therefore, we need to start using the so-to-speak "swords" of halakhah and other law against Anti Messianics in order to defend ourselves and not allow persecution of ourselves and fellow Messianic Jews to go on.

Addednum: Paul used the law to defend himself and--since all Sabra'im (including the Apostles who were disciples) were Roman citizens--the other Apostles.

Update: I linked to the conversation at hand by hyperlinking "By the way...". So, you can see and judge for yourself.

Monday, January 14, 2013

Update: Leah (leah8)'s Kehillah Contacted

 I'm hoping that I contacted the right kehillah. I think that I did. I asked Leah and she didn't respond, so that's a good sign.As I've said, the Anti Messianics' "rabbis" & kehillot have a right to know if they're made "tamei" by members who contact Messianic Jews. Furthermore, Leah harassed the "dead" and "idolatrous"; and since she considers us such, she violated Tanakh & halakhah by contacting us. I also let her know that her kehillah had been contacted, so my hands & conscience are clean. Pray that she is rebuked swiftly & mercifully.

The halakhah which she violated:

  1. From See "For a Jew who Converted to Another Religion".
  2. From "Going off the derech is one thing. But intermarrying or shmadding, and you break off all contact with that person after sitting shiva for him/her."
  3. Directly from Tanakh, the Complete Jewish Bible Translation

 So, you can see that my threat to contact Anti Messianics' kehillot when the Anti Messianic is contacting us "dead" Messianics is not idle.

Sunday, January 13, 2013

Notice To the Anti Messianics: Your "Rabbi" Will Be Contacted If He Or She Needs To Be

 If I ever catch any Anti Messianic infiltrating a Messianic website with which I am somehow involved, I may contact his or her "rabbi". Any Anti Messianic who’s stalking Messianics violates his or her interpretations of Deuteronomy 13, 18:10-12; and Numbers 19:11-21. His or her “rabbi” thus has the right to know if one of whom he or she has charge is out of line with his or her synagogue’s dictates.

After all, Anti Messianics should think that they’re in violation of Deuteronomy 13. Since they think that we’re really idolaters, they’re not supposed to hang around us. They’re supposed to stone us. Also, they're supposed to think that they’re in violation of Deuteronomy 18:10-12 and Numbers 19:11-21. They’re making contact with whom they think are the dead. Thus, any “rabbi” who has charge of them needs to know that they are committing what he or she would perceive as avodah zarah, and thus needs to sit shiva for them and/or put them through excommunication proceedings.

AddendumTo hound Messianics is fair to neither the Anti Messianic, nor the Messianics, nor the Anti Messianics' "rabbis". If you're Anti Messianic, know this: I’m not threatening you. I’m simply letting your “rabbi” know that you’re in violation of your synagogue’s dictates. You’re the one making contact with those whom you consider to be idolaters and the dead; and your “rabbi”, who has charge over you as your G-d-appointed shepherd, has the right to know what you’re doing.

Again, I’m not threatening you. I really did search one Anti Messianic's name, and will search your name if I need to let your "rabbi" know what you're doing. Your “rabbi” has the right to know that you are making contact with whom you and he or she consider to be idolaters and the dead. You are doing a disservice to yourself and your “rabbi” by making contact with whom you consider to be idolatrous and dead. Your “rabbi” needs to know if membership dues that are being paid by you could be considered defiled, since they come from one who has chosen to supposedly violate at least three of the 613 mitzvot.

Put in another way, if you’re violating your synagogue’s dictates by harassing us who are Messianic and thus making contact with whom you consider to be idolatrous and dead, then your “rabbi” is absolutely my business. Your “rabbi” has charge over you, and he or she needs to know that you have allegedly made contact with dead idolizers and given your synagogue defiled donations.

Addendum Two: If you start engaging in lashon hara by calling me an Anti Semite, stalker, etc.; I will definitely  be in contact with your "rabbi". I already told one Anti Messianic (and let her name be on record), You have allegedly broken four mitzvot, and actually broke one of the four–by your (not my) logic, you broke the other three mitzvot. You talk about having a matter both ways; look at you. I also made clear that I do not force (and have not forced) anyone to convert. You, on the other hand, are frequenting Messianic websites and harassing who you consider to be dead and idolatrous. As I said, my contacting of your “rabbi” is not an idle threat.

By the way, to whomever Leah (leah8)'s "rabbi" is, you need to know that your congregant is in violation of your synagogue's dictates and has given what you may consider defiled money to you.