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Showing posts with label Self_Hating_Jews. Show all posts
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Thursday, March 19, 2015

I Wasn't Orchestrating Anything....And I've No Interest In a "Palestinian" State

As I said, I'm a non-leftist no-shame type when I speak about Netanyahu*. Now that Netanyahu admitted that he wanted a two-state solution, who's the Anti-Israel, Anti-American liberal now?


On Monday, Netanyahu, in the face of a seemingly deadlocked race, vowed there would be no Palestinian nation if he were re-elected, a seeming reversal from a 2009 speech he gave in which he backed the idea of a two-state solution. But Netanyahu's Likud Party ultimately triumphed, and on Thursday, Netanyahu seemed to dial back his remarks on the plan, which is a centerpiece of U.S. policy in the Middle East.

Remember that he tried to give 86% of the West Bank away? He unequivocally, by the way, "vowed [that] there would be" "no Palestinian state". So, 86% of the West Bank and no Palestinian State? More like "לא למדינת יהודית ללא משיח" ("No Jewish State Without the Messiah"). It's no secret: the same Agudat Yisra'el that affected ben-Gurion to be the Jewish von Hindenburg** are intent on, along with their "natural partner", destroying the current State of Israel***:


**One of the defining moments of the relationship of religion and state in Israel took place on the eve of the declaration of independence. David Ben-Gurion sent a letter dated June 19, 1947, to the political leaders of the religious parties (Mizrachi and Agudat Yisrael) making certain assurances concerning life in the future state.[19] Ben-Gurion promised that:
  • The future government will do all it can to make sure that the religious demands be answered concerning personal status issues, such as marriage, divorce, and conversions. The result of this promise was that the Chief Rabbinate has authority over personal status issues and religious law governs marriage and divorce. This agreement continued the policy established during the Turkish and British era.
  • All government-operated kitchens (army, police, hospitals, etc.) will have kosher food.
  • The Sabbath will be the official day of rest for Jews.
  • There will be autonomy in education and the state will not intervene in religious education but will demand and regulate a minimum curriculum in secular subjects such as science, grammar and history.
The status quo agreement was accepted with the understanding that the assurances given by Ben-Gurion could be altered with the adoption of a constitution, but that constitution never came into being, as described in another chapter in this anthology.[20] With no constitution, the “church”-state divide remained vague and the different political powers, secular and religious, constantly attempted to change the equilibrium.


***The ultra-Orthodox have not accepted the Zionist definition of the Jews as a nation in search of a homeland, and have remained faithful to the ancient definition of Jews as a religious community waiting for a messiah. In May 1912, some 200 Orthodox leaders from Germany and Eastern Europe met in Kattowitz (Katowice) to start Orthodoxy’s first organized response to Zionism, Agudat Israel, which still exists today as an anti-Zionist movement in Israel and as a lobby elsewhere. The ideologue of the movement was Nathan Birnbaum, a brilliant intellectual who collaborated with Theodor Herzl in the early days of political Zionism. He coined the term “Zionism,” and then became convinced that the secular definition of the Jews as a nation was inadequate, that secularization would lead to the disappearance of the Jewish people. Orthodoxy had to take a firm stand against Zionism, in the form of a political organization. Agudat Israel was Diaspora-oriented, and its center between the two World Wars was in Poland, where about one third of the Polish Jews were its supporters. It had elected representatives in the Polish parliament in the 1930s, and its delegates have appeared before international bodies, including the League of Nations and the United Nations.Historically, Agudat Israel has been opposed to the idea of a Jewish state, but the Holocaust deprived the movement of most of its constituency in Eastern Europe, leaving them more of a minority, less anti-Zionist and ready to accept the reality of Zionist success.
Since 1948, the party has been pragmatically involved in state institutions. It supports governing coalitions and is rewarded with ample budgets for its Orthodox schooling system. Agudat Israel accepts the state of Israel de facto, but judges it to be without the religious significance assigned to it by religious Zionists.


* As I said:

Wednesday, January 28, 2015

I'm Not the Only One Kvetching About Netanyahu

As if PM Netanyahu's rebuttal to MK Livni did not already reek of dictatorial language:

"Prime Minister Netanyahu is the only leader in the world openly leading the struggle against the signing of a dangerous deal that will turn Iran into a nuclear-threshold state. Tzipi Livni is mistaken and misleading Israel’s citizens. Instead of supporting the prime minister in the big process of stopping a nuclear Iran, Tzipi is busy with personal insults and small politics. In complete contrast to what she says, the legislative initiative to apply additional sanctions on Iran has not been abandoned. Ten Democrat senators announced today that they will support passing more sanctions if Iran does not abide by the required clauses for a general agreement.”

No wonder, then, that I called PM Netanyahu "Manhig Yakar"! I and others saw trouble a long time ago. Why didn't more people see trouble? For example, giving 86% of the West Bank away should've been a huge sign that Netanyahu is a haredi posing as a chiloni! He "has [even] expressed support in principle for a Palestinian state"! 

Isn't that a clue that he, like many other Haredim, believe that the current Medinat Yisra'el is a treif medina?! Also, Agudat Yisra'el, the party in control, opposes Medinat Yisra'el


Next, in 1905, came Reb Judah Aryeh Leib Alter's eldest son, Abraham Mordecai Alter (1866-1948), who was perhaps the most influential of all Gerer tsadikim. He was nicknamed "Imrei Emet" (Speaker of Truth). Under his leadership the Gerer court reached its height of influence, gaining a reputation of excellence throughout the Hasidic world. Imrei Emet was also among the founders ofAgudat Israel , a conservative anti-Zionist religious political party that stepped into the difficult and diverse political world of the 20th century, articulating their view of what the essentials needs were for Jewish survival in Poland.

Ding! Ding! Is a bell ringing now?! David ben-Gurion let himself be a self-hating pawn! If there is any conspiracy going on, the conspiracy is on the part of self-hating/Anti-Semitic Haredim to dismantle Medinat Yisra'el until whom they believe to be Moshiach would come!

They shall be carried to Babylon, and there shall they be, until the day that I remember them, saith the Lord.1  And R. Zera?2  — That text1 refers3  to the vessels of ministry.4  And Rab Judah? — Another text also is available:3  I adjure you, O daughters of Jerusalem, by the gazelles, and by the hinds of the field, [that ye awaken not, nor stir up love,5  until it please]'.6  And R. Zera? — That7  implies that Israel shall not go up [all together as if surrounded] by a wall.8  And Rab Judah? — Another 'I adjure you'9  is written in Scripture. And R. Zera? — That text is required for [an exposition] like that of R. Jose son of R. Hanina who said: 'What was the purpose of those three adjurations?10  — One, that Israel shall not go up [all together as if surrounded] by a wall;8  the second, that whereby the Holy One, blessed be He, adjured Israel that they shall not rebel against the nations of the world; and the third is that whereby the Holy One, blessed be He, adjured the idolaters that they shall not oppress Israel too much'. And Rab Judah? — It is written in Scripture, That ye awaken not, nor stir up.11  And R. Zera? — That text is required for [an exposition] like that of R. Levi who stated: 'What was the purpose of those six adjurations?12  — Three for the purposes just mentioned and the others, that [the prophets] shall not make known the end,13  that [the people] shall not14 delay15  the end,13  and that they shall not reveal the secret16  to the idolaters'.
By the gazelles, and by the hinds of the field.17  R. Eleazar explained: The Holy One, blessed be He, said to Israel, 'If you will keep the adjuration, well and good; but if not, I will permit your flesh [to be a prey] like [that of] the gazelles and the hinds of the field'.

As for Netanyahu, Artuz Eser surmises:

[W]ith the current poll findings[,] Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu could form a 68 member governing coalition by joining forces with Jewish Home, Shas, United Torah Judaism, Kahlon, Yishai and Yisrael Beytenu. Opposition leader Isaac Herzog would be harder pressed to form a government, having to rope in both the ultra-Orthodox and Yesh Atid to form a fragile ruling coalition of 61 seats.
This is why Amir Hetsroni wrote:

What does Israel have to offer? It is easier to find kosher meat here and there is more variety of synagogues. To young people, Israel also offers the dubious pleasure of devoting two or three years of your life to the army.

Sounds tempting? Perhaps to Netanyahu and Benett, but not in the eyes of hundreds of thousands of Israelis who desperately search their family vaults for a proof that would grant them EU passport and not long ago took part in the popular Olim LeBerlin (“ascending to Berlin”) protest that expressed a wish to immigrate to Europe. Perhaps, Israel is a case wherein what looks nice from a distance is less attractive when you take a close-up shot.

By the way, that the Haredim are drying up Israel's economy may explain the low wages, etc..


Saturday, November 15, 2014

Example From My TOI "Wuerker" Post and Disclaimer

(Disclosure: this is mostly for those who have read my "Wuerker" post, by the way.)

For example, I can talk about what a traitor George Soros is because I know the facts, verified what I've read, and had family members (albe that they were distant ones) affected by the Shoah. Glenn Beck, who had and has no history with the Shoah, again has questionable intent. By the way, I first found out about George Soros in Culture Warrior. When I did, I honestly had no clue that I am Jewish and a bat-Anusim, let alone that George Soros (at least in some sense) has the blood of my family members (Anusi and openly Jewish alike) on his hands

By the way, George Soros also has to answer for the murders of some Nagys, among others, might I add—and If you think that I'm stupid, etc., by the way, I am not. I darned well know that, for example, "Levai" and "Nagy" can be Jewish; I know about kinnuim, etc.. If you think that I get drek from only my family on that, you are sorely mistaken.

I always have to add a disclaimer like this because of the tsores I go through at the hands of people who want to plant doubts in my head, etc. I basically go through something like what my dad's maternal granddad went through—in his case, he was always shot down with "The only reason that you say that we're Russian is because you work for the Russian Orthodox Church." How Dad pretty much passed down the drek to me was very much in similar words—something like, " "The only reason that he say that we're Russian is because he worked for the Russian Church.""

He worked for a Slovakian Byzantine Catholic Church in Swoyersville, Pennsylvania; and his father and mother were Anusim by the names of Gajdosz and Uszinsky—and let me tell you, he knew what he was saying. He never outright said that we're Jews, and that's because he would've been given a harder time. Let me add, too, that his parents never Magyarized their names—"Gajdosz" remained "Gaydosh", as opposed to "Gaydos"; and "Uszinsky" remained "Ushinsky", as opposed to "Usinsky".

Also, a Anusit Sefardit also got similar drek from her mishpachah; so, I'm not the first person to whom historical abuse (e.g., mental and verbal abuse in light of historical facts and findings) has happened. By the way, I can't find that example, though I remember reading it. I Googled and found plenty of other examples (including Susan Jacoby's! Who knew?)

Update (November 16, 2014 at 9:28 PM EST): Also see the following message (which I was writing when Shockwave crashed and I had to make the message a two-part video series):


Wednesday, October 8, 2014

"'Reform Jews' DNA"?

That's about one of the most-insulting search results that I've ever seen. Just because some Anti Messianics (including some Reform Jews), Anti Semites, Self-Hating Jews, and others choose to play games regarding Jewishness and DNA does not mean that Messianic and Non-Reform Non-Messianic Jews ought to be playing games regarding Jewishness and DNA. We do not have to sink to Jesse Straus' and others' levels.

Let them be the fools who claim that Jewishness is religious and not ethnic. Besides, of course "Judaism is a religion and not a race"! Judaism has always been the religion and Jewishness the ethnic ("racial") identity.

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Thursday, May 1, 2014

In Case JFJ Decides To Delete My Conversation With Them

 commented on a video on YouTube.
Shared publicly  -  Yesterday 6:25 PM
 
Hi Nicole, thanks for taking time to respond to the film, I hope you got a chance to watch the video explaining why we chose to make the film.  If you would like to continue a conversation or have any questions please go here thatjewdiedforyou.com/chat-now/
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Nicole Czarnecki
Yesterday 6:47 PM
 
 
I didn't even watch the video because I did not want to dignify or promote it in any way, shape, or form. As many have pointed out, many of the Nazis used Jesus (Yeshua) to commit horrid, Pseudo-Christian, Anti-Semitic (including Anti-Messianic) acts. As Holocaust survivor Edith Mayer Cord noted, Christianity was used by Martin Luther (who inspired much of Nazi ideology) to persecute Jews.

I knew right from the beginning that Moishe Rosen would never endorse or support using the Holocaust as a way to proselytize. "That Jew Died For You" crosses the line between sharing faith and proselytizing it; and, as Stuart Dauermann wrote (which I didn't even know):

"I remember Moishe (Moishe Rosen, Founder of Jews for Jesus) saying that one should never ask a survivor what he or she did to survive, because they all did things they are not proud of. He recognized that some things are hands off. Unfortunately, this film ignored that wisdom.

"Not everything that appears to advance the cause of the gospel is a good idea. This is why Moishe forbade JFJ to evangelize people under 18 without parental consent. He was wise: he realized it was inappropriate.  That kind of wisdom was missing in the release of this video."

Indeed (as Rev. Dauermann also noted), " I am afraid you triggered great animosity toward yourselves and the gospel.  Is it the gospel they are rejecting, or is it offensively poor taste? The answer is clear."

Look at YNet, VirtualJerusalem, and Ha'aretz for starters. I cringed when I saw how you affected Non-Messianic Jews and gentiles to perceive Messianic Judaism and Jews for Jesus.
That Jew Died for You
Yesterday 7:33 PM
 
 
The film was Moishes idea...  You should watch it before you criticize.  It was made to fight against antisemitism and to show who Jesus really is.  He is the suffering servant.

The animosity was already there before we ever made the film.  Now many Jewish people are talking about Jesus.  When my own father first heard about Jesus he was very angry, but the Holy Spirit softened his heart and now he follows Jesus.  Please have a more faith in this film and the power of the holy spirit.  Feel free to talk to me or anyone else on our chat about any other questions or concerns you have.    http://thatjewdiedforyou.com/chat-now/
Nicole Czarnecki
Yesterday 7:38 PM
 
 
+That Jew Died for You, then why wasn't it made when he was alive? You're succeeding in only sullying Moishe's memory, making the Gospel look foolish, and bringing down Jews For Jesus. What a shame. 
That Jew Died for You
Yesterday 7:44 PM
 
 
Well, there wasn't a good way to get a film like this seen in a large scale while Moishe was alive and doing a film like this would have costed far more with far less quality.  So he had us wait.  I wish he was still alive to have seen it.  The film shows the Gospel played out during a Jewish tragedy, the concept was adapted and inspired by Marc Chagall's artistic works that also show Jesus in the holocaust.  By the way Marc Chagall isn't Messianic.  I really hope you reconsider and watch the film.  It is a good film that will help many Jews see Jesus in the best way possible.   
Nicole Czarnecki
Yesterday 7:50 PM
 
 
+That Jew Died for You, I'd love to see the proof of that. If it was really Moishe's idea, wouldn't there have been a written statement from him on that? Also, wouldn't JFJ have released that statement after the backlash? So, you're trying to sully his memory and lie about him. One of the Aseret HaD'varim states that one should not bear false witness, and you're breaking that mitzvah. 
That Jew Died for You
Yesterday 8:13 PM
 
 
We have original storyboards from Moishe and his wife and daughters will tell you the same.  Would you like his daughter to give you a call?
Nicole Czarnecki
Yesterday 8:14 PM
 
 
Why don't you do the right thing and release them for everyone to see?
That Jew Died for You
Yesterday 8:19 PM
 
 
Besides you, no one else has had an issue with the film being Moishe's idea.  But if showing you his story board will help you understand then I would be glad to share it.  I will send it tomorrow. 
Nicole Czarnecki
Yesterday 8:32 PM
 
 
I would prefer that you do the right thing and release it for everybody to see. It received public backlash; it should be able to be defended in the public eye. After all, Yeshua Himself said, "there is nothing hidden which will not be revealed, nor has anything been kept secret but that it should come to light." (Mark 4:22
, NKJV) He also said through Kefa, "sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear;  having a good conscience, that when they defame you as evildoers, those who revile your good conduct in Christ may be ashamed. For it is better, if it is the will of God, to suffer for doing good than for doing evil." (1 Kefa [Peter] 3:15
-17)

If you really think that you can defend your claims, then do it. As Rev. Dauermann wrote correctly, "You will discover that your message is not getting across, but that people are repelled, disgusted, and enraged. Paul reminds us that it is no compliment when “the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you.”" Even worse when the name of God is blasphemed among our own people!
That Jew Died for You
11:11 AM
 
 
So you are not interested in seeing them.  That is fine.  The louder, not necessarily larger, Jewish community is upset because of Jesus.  If it was merely just because of the Holocaust they would be equally upset with films like Schindler's List or Escape from Sobibor.  The truth is that though the knee jerk reaction is offence and anger from anti-missionary sites, they do not represent the larger Jewish community.  Stuart Dauermann does not know what the real reaction will be.  He only sees what the press puts out which has never been supportive of the Gospel.

Now you need to know that I am a great grandchild of a murdered great grandmother and several other family members in Auschwitz.  Though my parents are Messianic much of the rest of my family a mix of reformed conservative and orthodox Jews.  Most of witch have seen the film and are now considering Jesus.  Though you have your doubts, the truth is the film works well for those who are willing to listen.

My concern is to see Jewish people consider who Jesus is.  When anti-missionaries raise their voice it is there goal to distract me from my goal.  I am not here to defend the film and prove it came from Moishe to you, if you would like to speak to his family and ask them about it feel free.  
Nicole Czarnecki
2:47 PM
 
 
So, you're continuing to say that you're still willing to do the wrong thing and use your relatives to do it. Shame on you.