What Happens When Scripture Is Not Viewed With Non-Messianic Eyes Is That...

There may not be a full understanding of who the AntiChrist is and how dangerous he will be.

Nicole Czarnecki

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·                                 ‎, re the Antichrist: if I thought any differently, I would've said so. I used to think that Mendel Schneerson could be the AntiChrist. But he's a Pharisee, not a Karaite (cf. Isaiah 2:6), and he wouldn't profess to cleanse Israel from Pharasaic ways (cf. Ezekiel 36:24-26). Also, both Karaite and Pharisee tradition claim that the Messiah has to be descended from Judah and Joseph (Mashiach ben-Yehudah v'Yosef), and I haven't seen Nehemia Gordon make such a claim about his descent. Also, Nehemiah has claimed that he's waiting for the Messiah. This guy (whoever he is) has to be a Messianic claimant and a claimant of descent from Yehudah and Yosef.

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[Name Censored] The Anti-Christ is not Jewish. He is an Arab of Syrian descent. Look at the life of Antiochus Epiphanes and you will better understand. He is the leader of the LAST Gentile Empire. The False Prophet is Jewish, just as the False High Priest helped An...See More

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Nicole Czarnecki Why would we follow an Arab of Syrian descent? That seems neither consistent with Scripture nor consistent with tradition. In fact, one of our main accusations against Jesus was that he was a Jewish traitor, and that Jews for Jesus (especially b'nai-Anusim like me) are insidious goyim posing as Jews.

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[Name Censored] Signing a peace treaty does not mean Israel is following the antiChrist. Israel has signed numerous treaties with other nations, including Egypt & Jordan. We don't follow them, but we expect peace from them. It will be the same with the AntiChrist.

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Nicole Czarnecki But we would never follow a goy as Mashiach.

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[Name Censored] A few will accept the AC as a Messiah, but the rest don't - that is one reason why the AC breaks his covenant in the middle of the 7 year period, then begins to persecute the Jews in earnest.

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[Name Censored] Don't forget the signs and wonders which the false prophet will do & he is the one who points to the AC as the Messiah.

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[Name Censored] Israelis are so secular and have many idols these days - they are constanly being led astray by gurus, etc.

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Nicole Czarnecki And that's exactly why a Karaite would have to be the AntiMessiah. I have a whole blog entry on this. As I said, I'm looking at Scripture for a Non-Messianic perspective and tradition from the same. The Hyper-Anti-Catholic and Anti-Arab/Anti-Mohammedan view clouds what is sad and unavoidable truth, yet also avoids giving my people credit for at least not following a goy as Mashiach.

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Nicole Czarnecki Also, the worst enemies of Jews have to be Jews. Look at George Soros and Adolf Hitler--both Self-Hating Jews (and the latter of whom I did not believe was a Jew until DNA testing concluded that he was a Jew of Berber descent). Also, the AntiMessiah will especially go after Jews who end up being "minim", "koferim", "meshumadim", etc. for believing in "JC".

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[Name Censored] There is a reason why the Bible follows two bloodlines - Ishmael & Isaac - Arab & Jew. AntiChrist & Messiah Yeshua.

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[Name Censored] The False Prophet is Jewish.

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Nicole Czarnecki So's the Antimessiah. To think the AntiChrist to be an Arab is not consistent with Scripture, nor would a false Trinity work with an Arab. Most Jews would be like, "We didn't follow Yeshu; why would we follow an Arab?"

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[Name Censored] The Anti-Christ is the son of Satan & a human mother. Satan hates the Jews because when they call on Yeshua to return, it spells doom for Satan. It is Satan's attempt at the Holy Trinity (Unholy Trinity).

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[Name Censored] Let's be clear - signing a treaty is not "Following" anyone.

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Nicole Czarnecki But there's no proof of that in Scripture. The Antichrist has to be descended from Yehudah and Yosef, which both Karaite and Pharisee tradition agree on. That's why pinning Angelo Scola (or whoever heads the Vatican) or an Arab Mohammedan, or Copt, or whoever can't be the AntiMessiah.

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[Name Censored] There is not a single verse in the Bible that says the AC is Jewish.

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Nicole Czarnecki Isaiah 2:6 and Ezekiel 36:24-26 would imply it. Also, as I said, who else would we be tricked into following as Mashiach?

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[Name Censored] The Karaites and the Pharisees do not study the New Testament. Revelation quotes over 500 times from the Old Testament.

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Nicole Czarnecki So that's exactly why I'm looking at it from their eyes.

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Nicole Czarnecki http://thenicolefactor.blogspot.com/2013/03/why-is-ruler-of-vatican-seen-as.html

The Nicole Factor: Why Is the Ruler of the Vatican Seen As the AntiChrist?

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[Name Censored] Isa. 2:6 describes Israel as it has been down through the ages and is today, outside of the believers in Yeshua. Ezekiel 36 describes what God will do for Israel in the end times. Those verses have nothing to do with the AC.

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Nicole Czarnecki If we base the AntiMashiach solely on what Brit Chadashah and clouded Anti-Catholic, Anti-Arab views say, then we're in trouble and not recognizing the real danger that my people are.

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[Name Censored] I am getting my verses from the Old Testament and I don't have any Catholic doctrine in my view. Strictly Jewish.

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Nicole Czarnecki Isaiah 2:6 and Ezekiel 36:24-26 imply a "cleans[ing] you from all your filthiness and from all your idols"--hence, Sikut and Ki'yun (cf. Amos 5:26-27). Cross referencing helps.

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Nicole Czarnecki But you have Anti-Catholic and/or Anti-Arab views to suggest that the Antichrist would be the "Pope" or a Mohammedan.

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[Name Censored] The AC does not follow the faith of his fathers -- INstead he follows the god of fortresses. The AC will not be a pope or a mohammedan.

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Nicole Czarnecki And to say that the AntiMashiach is goyisch actually takes credit away from my people, says that we'd be stupid enough to follow a goy as Mashiach. Part of the danger is that the AntiMashiach will be descended from Yehudah and Yosef, and not at all from Satan. The Mashiach is Non-Messianic messianism has to be a fully-human Jew born of two Jewish parents, one descended from Yehudah.

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Nicole Czarnecki Then he can't be Arab, Assyrian, or another type of goy. If he were, we'd be safe and laugh him off.

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[Name Censored] Stop using the term "following". It is not correct.

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[Name Censored] No one here is laughing about Arabs, Syrians, MUslims, etc.

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Nicole Czarnecki Even Jew Or Not Jew says about Jesus, "Verdict: Sadly, a Jew." So, the AntiMessiah can't be an Arab or Syrian or we'd never think him to be Mashiach.

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[Name Censored] Logic:

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Nicole Czarnecki Which I'm using.

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Nicole Czarnecki Many Jews won't accept Jesus because he is, in their eyes, "The Original Goy" asJew Or Not Jew puts it. How much less would we follow a Syrian or Arab as Mashiach?

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Nicole Czarnecki I even thought that Mendel Schneerson could be the AntiMessiah, but this is not consistent with Scripture or where the Karaite and Pharisee views merge.

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[Name Censored] Major Premise: The Jews will acept the AC as Messiah. Minor Premise: The Jews will never accept a Gentile as Messiah. Conclusion: The AC will be a Jew. FAULTY CONCLUSION. The BIBLE DOES NOT SAY THAT ISRAEL WILL ACCEPT THE AC AS MESSIAH.

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[Name Censored] Neither the Karaites or the Pharisees have the Holy Spirit in them. Why are you listening to them?

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Nicole Czarnecki It implies it, though. Who else would any even-remotely-reasonable Jew accept as Mashiach? Again, if we call Jesus "The Original Goy", we won't accept a real goy as Mashiach.

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Nicole Czarnecki That's exactly why--because they, not having the Holy Spirit, will accept (for a lack of a better term) a sort of Karaite kapo as Mashiach. You have to see it from their eyes to understand who they'll be accepting from yours. In other words, they'll accept only a Jewish AntiMessiah as the Jewish Mashiach.

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[Name Censored] It is a Peace Treaty that Israel signs with the AC and it divides up the Land, which God considers the last straw with the Jewish People & so He calls this "peace Treaty" a Covenant of Death and promises an overflowing scourge. That is what Israek does with the AC -- there is no promise of a messiah. That is NOT what brings the Tribulation.

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Nicole Czarnecki And a Self-Hating Jew wouldn't be willing to broker a peace treaty and divide Israel?

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Nicole Czarnecki As much as nobody likes to accept that Jerry Falwell was painfully right, he at least understood the Non-Messianic view of Mashiach to understand who the AntiMashiach will be.

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[Name Censored] Why would a jew need to broker a peace agreement with jews? This is between the RULER of the Last Gentile Empire on earth and the nation of Israel.

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Nicole Czarnecki Because all the peace treaties brokered with goyim and non claimants of Messiahship have failed.

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[Name Censored] This one will fail also. The AC will violate it.

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Nicole Czarnecki I don't get kicks out of thinking that a Karaite Jew will be the Anti Mashiach, but I'm looking at Scripture . Also, who more powerfully to violate the peace treaty than a kapo? And again, look at Hitler and Soros--they'll be tame compared to whoever the AntiMashiach is.

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[Name Censored] Genesis 3:15 talks of two seeds. The seed of the woman - Yeshua. and the seed of the serpent. AntiChrist.

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[Name Censored] The AC is energized by Satan.

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Nicole Czarnecki And the physical seed of demons was destroyed in the Flood. "Seed" in Genesis 3:15 also means spiritual seed. Even Jesus said that the Anti-Messianics' dad was the devil.

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Nicole Czarnecki I didn't say that he wasn't; but who more powerful for Satan than a kapo to work in?

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[Name Censored] This time it will be Satan who intermarries with a human woman. Does that make the seed Jewish?

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Nicole Czarnecki It will not literally be Satan. It'll be a patrilineal descendant of Yehudah and/or Yosef who marries a Jewish woman. Also see http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%203:14-15;%20John%208:43-47&version=CJB

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Bible Gateway passage: Genesis 3:14-15, John 8:43-47 - Complete Jewish Bible

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ADONAI, God, said to the serpent, “Because you have done this, you are cursed mo...See More

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Nicole Czarnecki "Zera(h)" can be physical as well as spiritual. None of the Anti Messianics are literally (physically) descended from Satan or demons.

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[Name Censored] It is the same seed that literally became Yeshua. It is the same seed that literally will become the AC. Don't spiritualize it - that's the error of the Gnostics. There was an actual Savior, supernaturally born. There will be an actual AC, supernaturally born. Satan always copies the real thing the best he can.

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Nicole Czarnecki Look at Genesis 6, though--demons copulating with humans will never happen again. Also, "zerah" can be spiritual.

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[Name Censored] God put those fallen angels in prison for doing that. But Satan has one last chance to "rule" and he knows his time is short, so he is making the best of it. He is fighting against God. He is disobedient. Give me one good reason why he will start obeying god now.

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[Name Censored] Dan. 8:23-25 & Dan. 11:36-39 describes the AC, his involvement with the occult and his plan to divide the Land.

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Nicole Czarnecki But he won't copulate with a Jewish woman. No Jewish woman would copulate with a demon.

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Nicole Czarnecki See Romans 9:6-8.
Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
6 But the present condition of Isra’el does not mean that the Word of God has failed.

For not everyone from Isra’el is truly part of Isra’el; 7 indeed, not all the descendants are seed of Avraham;[a] rathe...See More

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Nicole Czarnecki And a Non-Messianic Karaite kapo can't do all that?

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[Name Censored] knowingly.

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Nicole Czarnecki Even a Non Messianic knows Genesis 6 well and would not copulate with someone or something suspicious.

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[Name Censored] The beast (AC) comes from the sea. Whenever symbolism is used in the Bible, it is used consistently. The sea always represents the gentile nations. The False Prophet comes from the Land. (always a symbol for Israel.

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Nicole Czarnecki And where is this in Scripture?

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Nicole Czarnecki Genesis 22:17
I will most certainly bless you; and I will most certainly increase your descendants to as many as there are stars in the sky or grains of sand on the seashore. Your descendants will possess the cities of their enemies,

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Nicole Czarnecki Genesis 49:13
“Z’vulun will live at the seashore, with ships anchoring along his coast and his border at Tzidon.
Genesis 49:12-14 (in Context) Genesis 49 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations

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Nicole Czarnecki The sea, both literally and non literally (e.g., similies, metaphors), is figured in with Israel quite a few times.

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[Name Censored] Ariel Ministries has an excellent book compiling all the endtime Scriptures and categorizing them. Footsteps of the Messiah by Dr. Arnold G. Fruchtenbaum. If you are interested. He also has a teaching camp in the Adirondack Mtns, NY- seminary level teaching from a Jewish Perspective.

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[Name Censored] The Scripture is in Rev.

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Nicole Czarnecki As I said, though, the sea, both literally and non literally (e.g., similies, metaphors), is figured in with Israel quite a few times.

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[Name Censored] Zvulun lives on the Land by the sea.

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[Name Censored] Here we are today

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[Name Censored] yes!

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Nicole Czarnecki So, the AntiMessiah can't be a Jew who "comes from the Sea", maybe was born on the Israeli seas?

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[Name Censored] that's stretching it - 

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[Name Censored] The Lord bless you Nicole!

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Nicole Czarnecki Not reall.. "Micah 7:12
a day when [your] people will come [back] to you from Ashur and from the cities of Egypt, from Egypt and from as far as the Euphrates River, and from sea to sea, and from mountain to mountain."

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[Name Censored] I must go - it's getting late.

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Nicole Czarnecki Ok. L'laila tov and be blessed as well.

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[Name Censored] Messianic Kingdom... after the Trib.

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Nicole Czarnecki That's not how Non Messianics interpret it. L'laila tov.

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