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Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Please Report James Walker On Facebook If You Can...

By the way, I am not deleting the conversation that occurred between me and James because: 

  1. Facebook may need to see it. 
  2. We need to show Facebook an example of why there need to be reports to report people who can be and are reasonably suspected of mental illness, including sociopathy and psychopathy, and can be reported by non guardians. 
  3. People need to see what kind of person to avoid.
Please report James. His username is Yaaqov1.

sees almost every day, if not every day, why Non-Messianic Jews have an excuse to laugh at us: our hypocritical, out-of-bounds legalism. For example, as much as I love Samuel Rodriguez, there is no way that I'm letting him get away with connecting Ash Wednesday to Tammuz. Even if (as his legalistic friend alleges, and he realleged) the sign of the Cross is connected to Tammuz and a costume thereof (of which I have never seen nor heard), the Church redeemed it. Ever heard of tikun-ha'olam? We don't implement it, though we have the strength given to us by Yeshua Ha'Mashiach; and then we wonder why Non-Messianic Jews find us to be hypocrites who have no real interest in tzedek.

Yo veo casi todos los días, si no todos los días, por qué Judios quién son no Judios Mesiánicos tener una excusa para reírse de nosotros: nuestra hipócrita, fuera de límites legalismo. Por ejemplo, por mucho que me encanta Samuel Rodríguez, no hay manera de que yo voy a dejar que se salga con la conexión del Miércoles de Ceniza a Tamuz. Incluso si (como su amigo legalista alega, y él re-alegó) la señal de la cruz está conectado a Tamuz y un traje del mismo (de la que nunca he visto ni oído), la Iglesia ha redimido. ¿Has oído hablar de tikún-Haolam? No lo ponemos en práctica, aunque tenemos la fuerza que Ha'Mashiach Yeshua nos da, y luego nos preguntamos por qué Judios quién son no Judios Mesiánicos encuentran que somos hipócritas que no tienen ningún interés real en tzedek.
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  • James Walker I thought non-messianic Jews *are* legalists... why would they fault legalistic messianics for being legalists?

    Furthermore, even your NT says:

    Matthew 6:16 “Moreover, when you fast, do not be like the hypocrites, with a sad countenance. For they disfigure their faces that they may appear to men to be fasting. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. 17 But you, when you fast, anoint your head and wash your face, 18 so that you do not appear to men to be fasting, but to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly."

    Where does having a clergyman paint a black cross on your forehead as a sign of starting a fast, and going on telling your friends for a month and a half what you gave up for lent, fit in even with the above commandment of your messiah?

    Thus, I'm not following your logic either from the Judaism side, or Messianic side.
    about an hour ago · Edited · Like · 1
  • Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki Firstly, many Non Messianics follow the spirit of Torah as opposed to the letter--even if they do not believe in the inerrancy of Torah or the rest of Tanakh, much less in Yeshua as Masiach. In fact, Reform Judaism is very clear: "This early radicalism was mentioned in the 1885 Pittsburgh Platform, which dismisses "such Mosaic and rabbinical laws as regulate diet, priestly purity and dress" as anachronisms that only obstruct spirituality in the modern age. The platform stressed that Reform Jews must only be accepting of laws that they feel "elevate and sanctify our lives" and must reject those customs and laws that are "not adapted to the views and habits of modern civilization."" (Jewish Virtual Library)

    Reform Judaism continues this thinking today: " Some institutions are considered to be a product of the cultural milieu and societal norms of the ancient Near East when the Hebrew Scriptures were written down, and do not speak to our lives today. In addition, Reform Jews do not ascribe to the Mishnah and Talmud the same authority which Orthodox Jews do. While the Talmud and law codes guide the lives of Orthodox Jews, it is more accurate to say that they inform the lives of Reform Jews." (http://urj.org/ask/questions/orthodox/
    )

    Reform Judaism even mentions that Judaism is, or at least should not be, "frozen in time". Therefore, legalism would be--for example--following some "societal norms of the ancient Near East when the Hebrew Scriptures were written down"--giving over a slave's wife and children to his owner unless he has ear awled into a door. 

    Besides, Yeshua made a New Covenant, not a "Renewed Covenant". The Old Covenant remains for Non-Messianic Jews (which Karaites like yourself and others frankly get). The New Covenant and the spirit of the Old Covenant are for the Messianic Jew.
  • Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki Secondly, the intent is looked at. People who explain why they have crosses on their heads are certainly not looking for praise for doing it.
  • James Walker And how many ancient Jewish Christians rejected the Law in favor of Catholic traditions? Any sources, my friend? Ebionites or Nazarenes - they both rejected the trinity, were divided on the virgin birth, and united on the binding authority of the Torah. This is proven through documents from the 2nd century onward. Modern Messianic Jews, however, are the opposite, in most cases - being mainline evangelical protestants in beliefs and practice. How do you account for this?
  • James Walker Assimilationist rhetoric from the 19th century does not make it the will of God, just because Jews stated it. Ever read the proposals of Hellenistic Jews in the days of the Maccabbees ?
  • James Walker Just a refresher:

    1 Maccabees 1
    [41] Then the king wrote to his whole kingdom that all should be one people,
    [42] and that each should give up his customs. 
    [43] All the Gentiles accepted the command of the king. Many even from Israel gladly adopted his religion; they sacrificed to idols and profaned the sabbath. 
    [44] And the king sent letters by messengers to Jerusalem and the cities of Judah; he directed them to follow customs strange to the land, 
    [45] to forbid burnt offerings and sacrifices and drink offerings in the sanctuary, to profane sabbaths and feasts, 
    [46] to defile the sanctuary and the priests, 
    [47] to build altars and sacred precincts and shrines for idols, to sacrifice swine and unclean animals, 
    [48] and to leave their sons uncircumcised. They were to make themselves abominable by everything unclean and profane, 
    [49] so that they should forget the law and change all the ordinances.
    [50] "And whoever does not obey the command of the king shall die."
  • Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki I can account for that many modern Messianic Jews heed the warnings in the Apostlic Letters--since the Apostles were writing down warnings about apostasy and legalism like that of the Ebionites and Nazarenes, which has nothing to do with Catholicism unless you consider that Non-Evangelical Catholics learned well from the Christian-in-name-only cults. By the way, Maccabees is not a part of Tanakh or Brit Chadashah.
  • James Walker It's our history, just as the German Reform movement and German holocaust a century later is part of our history
  • James Walker here does the word "legalism" even appear in the NT?
  • Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki The Reformation has nothing to do with the Holocaust. Martin Luther either fell away or was a Christian in name only.
  • James Walker German Jewish Reform
  • James Walker He believed Jesus is Lord, and you can't say that without having the Holy Spirit, right? So whoever calls on his name shall be saved, etc.
  • Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki So, Reform Jewish children are at fault, too? I see. G-d must be a sick G-d to punish children because of Reform Judaism. Look; s*** happens; life happens; the Holocaust had nothing to do with Reform Judaism. Also, not everyone who says "L-rd, L-rd" will enter Heaven; and some who do will still have been fallen away.
  • James Walker It's a covenant, with consequences. It's basic Bible
  • Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki Covenant with consequences for innocent children, like my cousin Fredi, too? I see. So, Fredi, who was Orthodox, was thrown against a fence or burned in a furnace because of what Reform Jews in Germany did. Your thinking is sick, James.
  • James Walker How is it sick?
  • James Walker you're a Bible believer are you not
  • James Walker God punishes and rewards
  • James Walker JC talks plenty about weeping & gnashing of teeth, eternal torment, lakes of fire etc.
  • James Walker Or do you have a dispensationalist excuse for that, too?
  • Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki I'm not a Dispensationalist. Knock it off.
    54 minutes ago · Like · 1
  • James Walker Law done away, it's a new Covenant now... what theology is that?
    53 minutes ago · Like · 1
  • Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki You should know. It's in Tanakh. Now knock it off.
  • James Walker Knock what off? I'm just discussing your post - you called me sick 
  • Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki You're darn right I did. To think that G-d would punish children for what Reform Jews did in Germany is sick.
  • James Walker Exo 20:5 you shall not bow to them, and you shall not serve them; for I am Jehovah your God, a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of fathers on sons, on the third and on the fourth generation, to those that hate Me; 
    Exo 20:6 and doing kindness to thousands, to those loving Me, and to those keeping My commandments.
    47 minutes ago · Like · 1
  • Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki Now you're twisting Scripture.
  • James Walker Read Deuteronomy 28, Leviticus 26, Any given Jeremiad...
  • James Walker What is being twisted. When Jews abandon the Torah, and revile God's covenant, there are consequences
  • James Walker You've heard of exile and captivity, I'm sure.
  • Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki Jeremiah 31:30-34. Tell me if Fredi burned because he didn't follow the Old Covenant after that--and after Matthew 19:14. Fredi was a child! And the Holocaust had nothing to do with any Jew (kapos excepted) or Reform Judaism. You need help, and I am telling you that as a friend.
  • James Walker If he didn't believe in Jesus, he'd be burning in far worse conditions, according to your good news
  • James Walker Do you know the rest of Jer 31 - it seems to be that only one paragraph is cited by you
  • Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki No. Jeremiah 31:30-34 is cited. Besides, children don't burn in Hell; and that is not why the Holocaust happened.
  • James Walker God lowering His hedge of protection against Christian and Secular gentiles is what led to things like the Holocaust. Lutherans have been hating and expelling Jews for much longer, but it took Jews rejecting God and his covenant by the hundreds of thousands in order to assimilate and become German that compounded to the level of the Sho'ah.
  • James Walker Same thing happened in Babylon:

    Ezek 20:32 And what comes up on your spirit shall surely not occur, that you say, "We will be like the nations, like the families of the lands, to serve wood and stone!"
    Eze 20:33 As I live, says the Lord Jehovah, Surely with a mighty hand, and with an outstretched arm, and with fury poured out, I will reign over you. 
    Eze 20:34 And I will bring you out from the peoples and gather you from the lands in which you are scattered among them with a mighty hand and with an outstretched arm, and with fury poured out. 
    Eze 20:35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the peoples, and I will be judging face to face there with you. 
    Eze 20:36 Just as I was judging your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so I will be judging you, declares the Lord Jehovah. 
    Eze 20:37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant. 
    Eze 20:38 And I will purge from among you the rebels and the transgressors against Me. I will bring them out of the land where they reside, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel. And you shall know that I am Jehovah. 
    Eze 20:39 And you, O house of Israel, so says the Lord Jehovah: Every man go, serve his idols, even hereafter, if you will not listen to Me. But you will not still profane My holy name with your gifts and with your idols. "

    Read every line. You're clearly quick to play the "sick-o" card without examining the record of Scripture.
  • Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki Anti Semitism--not Reform Judaism or other assimilation, or disbelief in Jesus by most Jews--had to do with the Holocaust. Messianic Jews and other Non-Reform Jews, and children also died in the Shoah. Your thinking is as sick as Christopher Dorner's, I'm sorry to say. You need serious help.
  • James Walker See Ezekiel, above.
  • James Walker Was Ezekiel 20 "sick"?
  • Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki As I said, you need help. I am telling you this as a former friend.
  • Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki You are by twisting it.
  • James Walker Was this prophecy "in need of help"?
  • James Walker Gave the full context
  • Audra Hairston 1 Corinthians 9:20 talks about the legalistic perversion of the Torah.
  • James Walker Twisting = you don't like the context? Because it says, many Israelites wanted to be like the nations. God said He would single out them to pour out wrath and fury upon them, etc.
    28 minutes ago · Edited · Like · 1
  • James Walker I don't care what a man wrote in a church newsletter
    29 minutes ago · Edited · Like · 1
  • James Walker that's the direct word of God in the first person
  • James Walker Hence, you are resorting to dispensationalism.
  • James Walker Playing NT vs Words of Hebrew Prophets
  • James Walker I'll drop it - thanks for at least raising the topic. I don't want to be a bother
    27 minutes ago · Like · 1
  • James Walker Layla tov
    26 minutes ago · Like · 1
  • Audra Hairston former friend?
    26 minutes ago · Like · 1
  • Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki Yep. He needs mental help.
    25 minutes ago · Like · 1
  • James Walker I don't doubt that
  • Audra Hairston That doesn't sound good. Have a good night you all.
    19 minutes ago · Edited · Like · 1
  • James Walker I'll take all the help I can get 
    19 minutes ago · Like · 1


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