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Saturday, February 2, 2013

When Bringing Criticims to Ancestry.com, Avoid Guys Like CulsenGenealogy


 This is to warn you about agenda-driven and feinshmeker genealogists who claim to be experts about everything pertaining to AncestryDNA, etc.. Watch out for them. For example (and in case CulsenGenealogy decides to be a smart aleck and delete his comments on http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=bKcutt1gPXs):


Nicole Czarnecki 21 hours ago
With all due respect, Kris, I'm going to be honest with you: AncestryDNA is a good starter test, but people who had taken it before my dad warned about problems that I should've believed them on before his results came back. For example, AncestryDNA links my dad's third cousin Kevin as his 5th-8th cousin with low (< 50%) confidence; and AncestryDNA counted Greece and "Belgarus" (whatever that is) as Eastern Europe. Use the AncestryDNA test as a starter test & stick with using the paper trail.
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CulsenGenealogy 2 days ago
I - like others whom study migration of the ancestors AND also realizes that our DNA is thousands of years old - am happy to see Kris make a video and say the same thing: your genetic history is NOT your immediate paper trail. Even if that immediate trail is up to 3-500 years ago. AND that we are the result of history in the making.
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Nicole Czarnecki 21 hours ago
That's what I thought, too--that people who were complaining about AncestryDNA "have no idea how genetic testing, and algorithms work.." and "I do not think a lot of people understand how these DNA tests work." (From TheGeneticGenealogist) Then I saw the results, and "Greece", the Balkans, and "Belgarus" as a part of Eastern Europe. Also see the comment about my cousin. As I said, use the AncestryDNA test as a starter test & stick with using the paper trail.
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CulsenGenealogy 19 hours ago
FTDNA shares the same EE country break down as Ancestry : Eastern European (Poland, Greece, Macedonia, Slovakia, Hungary, Croatia, Romania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Belarus, Moldova, Montenegro, Bulgaria, Belgarus, Kosovo)
I am not sure what you are trying to say? you clearly are not happy with Ancestry results, so perhaps you were looking for something specific? Deep genetics are just that. A paper trail can give you some names. DNA cannot lie.
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Nicole Czarnecki 6 hours ago
I didn't say that DNA lies; I said that AncestryDNA is not as accurate. They even admit that they're in Beta. Also, the Balkans are Southeastern Europe (way different than Eastern--Slavic, Magyar, and Ruso), and Greece is Mediterranean (often considered Western, not Eastern) Europe. Also, you never addressed my comment about my cousin and "Belgarus".
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CulsenGenealogy 1 hour ago
I don't need to address anything, actually. You clearly are angry over what results you see, and are all over the internet raging about it. You just simply brought your newest rants to Kris Williams video blog.
You state that AncestryDNA is not as accurate, YET FTDNA uses the same countries, including 'Belgarus' - try looking up the history of that word. No. I will not help you. Again, you are looking for what YOU want to see, not what is there, and already known.
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Nicole Czarnecki 1 second ago
I've looked it up. "Belgarus" is a village in Iran. Nice try, though.
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See http://www.thegeneticgenealogist.com/2012/04/02/a-review-of-ancestrydna-ancestry-coms-new-autosomal-dna-test/ for a sample of the warnings, for example. You can Google "AncestryDNA reviews", for example, as well.

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