Some Fellow Messianic Jews Can Be Quite Disingenuous

"Jesus" is simply English for "Ieosus" (Ιεοσυς) or "Yeshua" (

Yeshua

). Any Messianic Jew who states that he or she is not a Christian (from the Syrian meant-to-be perjorative, but-turned-identifying-and-complimentary "follower of Christ) or a follower of the Jewish Christ (Kristos, Kristos; Mashiach,

Mashiach

) is only, inadvertently or deliberately (and sinfully, perhaps even as a false Christian or believer), helping the Antimissionaries.

Part of Why Some Jews Leave Non-Messianic Judaism And Even Come To Abandon or Even Hate Their Jewishness

There are even Jews who fall into this category; some for more understandable reasons than others. For example, see an important article by the Baltimore Jewish Times on sexual abuse in the Jewish community. The interviewee even states, " “I am basically anti-Semitic. I like Jews, but I just need to stay away from them."

Where are the Antimissionaries dealing with sexual and other abuse in the Jewish community, by the way? And another example of one who left Non-Messianic Judaism partly because of sexual abuse: Ruth McBride Jordan, nee Ruchel Dvorjah Szylska (and I recommend the book The Color of Water, which gives Mrs. Jordan's full story as she told her son) . 

Diaspora Jews Are More Afraid of Messianic & Karaite Jews Than Israelis

This is just the overall audience from 0:00 to 23:00 by country from today under the "Day" category, which leads me to believe that especially gentile converts to Judaism and fellow American Jews need to relax a little bit.

United States

233

United Kingdom

14

Canada

5

Australia

4

Malta

3

Israel

2

India

2

Switzerland

1

Germany

1

Spain

1

A Roustabout With the Antimissionaries, Which They Started

I personally love when the Antimissionaries prove themselves to be intolerant and incapable of thinking for themselves. After all, the dvarim written down by Paul are fulfilled: "Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers." Furthermore, "even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart." I personally have to remind myself that when fellow Jews reject Jesus, they are only hurting themselves and helping-- not hurting-- the supposedly-dreadful missionaries.

One believer had legit concerns about some content in the Jews for Jesus group on Facebook, and so our conversation went like this:

[Believer] There's a lot of junk on this wall. I would like for someone to moderate this group, please.

Nicole Czarnecki But don't worry about it. After all, as I told one Antimissionary, "your intolerance...is astounding and will succeed only in defeating your Antimissionary goals." The Antimissionaries do themselves no good.

[Believer] Thanks, Nicole. I'm not worried about the anti-missionaries... it's the weird posts that are completely off-topic that disturb me. I'm worried about new believers getting confused... but on the selfish side, I do come here for uplift, and the junk bums me out. ( :

Nicole Czarnecki I know what you mean. And there are legalists and conspiracy theorists

 here. I can see why my dad and his parents refuse belief in Yeshua because of them. After all, their parents (both of her parents, one a despicable

 traitor to relatives who died in the Holocaust because of her; and his dad, an Anusi who escaped the pogroms at the age of three years) were Anusim (and

 part of Great-Grandma Gaydos' excuse for betrayal was her Anusitkeit, I suppose. By the way, I'm still working on what Hebrew and Yiddish I was not passed down.).

By the way, I love how the Antimissionaries are so presumptuous and arrogant as to speak to a Kosice Rusnak (which I am) and a cousin of Vilgelm Andrulevich (see JewishGen.org and Ancestry.com), and the granddaughter of a former IRS agent and cousin of an aspiring fashion designer like that. Only one of the introduced connections would defend me, I'm afraid; nonetheless, I am like some of the nevi'im and others in that I have some connections and am not just an ishah shel ha'aretz.

The Antimissionaries Get More Vile Every Day

This probably won't be posted, but I told Skylar Curtis, the antimissionary blogger whose work I take serious issue with, the following: "Were you even born Jewish? If not, knock off the Antimissionarism and let Jews read "A Set Apart Life" and come to their own conclusion about Jesus. As a Jew, I can tell you that you have no place in trying to prevent other Jews from considering the Jewish Jesus of Nazareth if you're not Jewish yourself."

Here's Skylar's vile and hutzpah-laced entry: "Do Not Read the Blog 'A Set Apart Life'"

Here are some of the insidious excerpts, filled with the very things which she labels "A Set Apart Life"'s entries and condemns, with my commentary:

There is a blog out there that you should not read if you are pursuing Jewish conversion or believe in Judaism. It's called A Set Apart Life.

That blog is about messianic Judaism, NOT Judaism. Even though it may have Judaism in the name, messianic Judaism rejects Judaism and uses its rituals and traditions to further their proselytizing at Jews to accept Jesus as savior.

 

Messianic Jews (Jewish Christians) do not reject Judaism. In fact, we simply believe that Jesus of Nazareth is the Beginning and End of Judaism and Jewishness (which is a long discussion, and probably one which you may have had before).

 

I purposely posted that "hot-button" post so that it would show on her blog's page and bring this idea to her reader's attentions. I am offended by this blog, and I am even more offended that my blog is being used to bolster her own credibility among Jewish conversion candidates.

 

Maybe I'm reading Nehemia Gordon (a Non-Messianic Karaite) wrong, but I believe that even he's implied that P'rushim ("rabbi"nates)-- at least like Skylar Curtis-- don't want people thinking for themselves. Instead of Skylar being so offended, perhaps she ought to (so to speak and as would be the case in her eyes) encourage people to know what the "enemy" (the dreaded Missionary) is saying.

 

In other words, this blogger is a wolf in sheep's clothing. If you come from an evangelical background, you can catch the otherwise innocuous (if strange to Jewish ears) phrases she uses that refer to very specific Christian ideas, such as "stay at home daughter."

 

There are many stay-at-home daughters, wives, and mothers-- in fact, many who aren't allowed to leave home-- in Judaism, especially in the shtetlach such as Crown Heights and Northwest Baltimore.

 

Messianic Jews...if we want to talk to you about your faith, we will find you. Stop tricking us into listening to you by acting like you are imparting Jewish ideas so that you can spring your agenda on us at a later time. That is just plain insidious, unethical, and creepy. And it certainly violates the way Hashem wants us to live our lives.

 

We're following the Great Commission and the Light to the Nations. What about you, Ms. Curtis? Also, we're not forcing ourselves on you (We allow you to "choose this day who you will serve."). Also, we use TaNaKh to support our ideas. And what about you? Is your faith so weak that you have to rely on fallible "rabbis" and not TaNaKh itself? And to Nehemia Gordon's and other Non-Messianic Karaites' credits, they do rely on TaNaKh to believe in what they believe in and why they believe in it.

This is Delegate Steve DeBoy (D)'s Cousin Nicole Writing..

I'm not just criticizing CNN, MSNBC, etc. for the fun of it. I come from a predominately-Jewish-Democrat & Irish-Catholic-Democrat, now somewhat-mixed Far-Left and Far-Right family with some leaning right, left, and right and left (that is, in the middle). I used to watch CNN until February 1, 2003 (about the or maybe even the last time that I watched it-- at least consistently).

I'm from liberal Baltoannapolis (Baltimore-Annapolis Metro Area). I have a meshuga twin who idolizes Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-MN) and Ex-Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK). I am the granddaughter of one of three now-former IRS Agents who served tax papers to Nixon-- John "Jack" Czarnecki, who's a Democrat and whose mother was a Clinton Democrat (and the Polish-Slovakian gentile Catholic who my Crypto-Jewish great-great-grandmother Alexandria Czarnecki hated). I am a cousin of Maryland State Delegate Steve DeBoy (D), from the illustrious and darned-right-Democrat Farrell-DeBoy line (who include actors Paul and P.J. DeBoy). I am also a second cousin of a Far-Left Jewish Taoist. I am furthermore a niece and the goddaughter of a consultant for and adviser to Governor Martin O'Malley.

So, I am not a Far-Right ideologue who's merely shilling for FOX News-- I've lived being on the Left (somewhat, anyway, since my mom shifted to the Right by the time that I was born; but I pointed to quite a bit of the rest of my family and my family history, anyway), and I've lived watching unfair-and-unbalanced news.

"A Traitor Is A Still a Traitor" Continued

So a friend and I were talking about Nana Allen being a Sefardi'ah Yehudi'ah (which I've seen too much evidence of to think that she's just a Catolica Espanola y Irelandesa), and we got to talking about the Rusnaks et. al. again:

[Friend] Because that was the tendency of our forefathers covering what was our roots... I'm sorry about your Ta(Dad)

58 minutes ago ·

Nicole Czarnecki

I am, too. He is missing such a rich part of our history. Meanwhile; one memory that'll always stick out to me: I was learning about the Shoah and
said something in a moment of OCD/Anxiety panic. To attempt to assuage my fear and quiet me..., my dad deliberately drew a swastika on a piece of paper just
to throw the paper in the fireplace. Little did I know:

1) he has OCD/Anxiety.

2) Great-Grandma Gaydos is lucky that she died in 1992. Had I known that
the supposedly-sweet woman who died when I was two was a traitor back to her relatives in Europe.... and especially if she were still alive (She'd be
104 this year; and she could've lived into her 90s and 100s if she'd wanted to); I'd've told her one or another thing. I didn't realize that Dad was
that angry at Great-Grandma.. though I sure don't blame him. And I think that Great-Granddad may've been trying to get back at his wife, too, when he
said that "We're Russian." Meanwhile; Great-Granddad's mom was a Uszinsky; and Great-Grandma's dad was of the Kosice, Slovakia Rusnaks (who've include Zionist Conference member Yoshua Rusnak), and her mom of Anusi Foskos (long story) and Hanzoks (Hanssaks) (who became Anusim perhaps later than I'd originally thought. They didn't flee Hungary until the Middle 1800s for Slovakia-- which was a relatively-more pro-Jewish part of Austria Hungary back then; and there are still Hanzoks in Hungary-- beats me why.)....

[Friend] you really have a rich history... And i know THE LORD preserved the Hanzoks in Hungary... And the Belskie are from Hungary, no? Have you seen the movie Defiance?

36 minutes ago ·

Nicole Czarnecki

I know of no relation to the Belskies that I have, but I know that the
Foczkos fled from Hungary by 1776. The first baptism records for them are from Slovakia from 1776-- were they Catholic originally and not Anusim, the
records would've g...one to Slovakia from Hungary. They didn't.

Also, "Maria" and variants thereof were actually surprisingly common in Ashkenazic Jewish communities in Eastern Europe; but Aunt Mary was named for both her grandmothers (and Great-Great-Grandma Alexandria Andrulewicz
Czarnecki would've been sick to know that her son Antoni had a granddaughter named for his "shiksa" wife-- she HATED her!), and the Foczkos (Foskos) have few "Marias", etc. among them. Great-Grandma was named "Marysia" for her grandmother Marysia "Maria" Novakova Rusnakova, by the way.

Maria Novakova Rusnakova was part of the first Novak and Rusnak Anusim--
and that's part of what made Great-Grandma's betrayal of the Rusnaks during the Shoah sicker! Grandma and Grandaunt Mary Ann still try to pass off that the Rusnaks wrote her to ask for money when they were really asking for
help! But they're not 12 and 7 anymore!

They can admit what their beloved mom did! They know that I'm not stupid or
ignorant of Great-Grandma's stopping to write to them; and she lost the opportunity to preach the Gospel, if nothing else, because she refused to
help them! I myself'd've said, "Screw FDR and Isolationist Policy." But she basically said that'd she'd rather screw justice and the name of Jesus-- and you can only imagine how they further saw us as Anusi-masked traitors, and Self-Hating-Jewish pogromists and crusaders who would give our relatives
even up to the Nazis!

Meanwhile, a Rusnak who did survive-- Tibor Geza-- became Roman Catholic (probably to be an Anusi in America), went to Ohio, never talked to us, and had himself cremated when he died in 2006. I found out all this through family research and other things, by the way.

By the way, Janet; that times were different then doesn't matter. I'll always be braver than you (I think, or at least until you can admit that your and Dad's beloved Grandma Gaydos was a coward and true koferah el Yeshua v'Aminu). And I wonder what September 22, 1992 at the Judgement was like for Great-Grandma.

 

Forget the Elitism Against Gwyneth Paltrow Martin and The Paltrow-Martin Children...

If there is ever a Jewish Elitism; the Jewish Elitism is in especially the unprovoked and opportunistic persecutions of Messianic Jews (Jewish Christians), as Nate Goldstein and Shani prove to anyone who's paying attention (perhaps including Ilana Angel):

Her kids are not not Jewish so your article is moot.

Though your article us useful to identify you as a lowly sycophant.



Comment by Dexter on 7/25/11 at 4:59 pm

Well Gwyneth Paltrow’s Jewish father probably qualifies her to be Jewish under Reform’s standards, so there’s no particular reason she can’t raise her kids in that denomination.



Comment by dee on 7/25/11 at 6:50 pm

I think it’s great that Paltrow has stated publicly that she’s raising her children in the Jewish faith. I’m not quite sure how that works, considering neither she, nor her mother, nor her husband are Jewish…but, at least she brings publicity for the countless benefits and rewards of Jewish life…I wonder why Paltrow hasn’t converted herself, considering she obviously values a Jewish upbringing above all others?



Comment by Shani on 7/25/11 at 8:24 pm

By reform standards she can raise both her kids Jewish. But I think what she is referring to is their cultural heritage and ethnicity and not their religious affinity. In any case, many people are discovering their Jewish roots and choosing to re-acquire that heritage. All the more power to them. In the long run of course, it will be up to her children and not her to ultimately decide the extent of their own Jewishness. You said, “The Jewish population is getting smaller”. Perhaps one of the main causes of this is Jews who discourage the ownership of one’s own heritage because they don’t fit their narrow elitist definition of “who’s a Jew”.



Comment by Mashiach on 7/26/11 at 7:42 am

“I’m not quite sure how that works, considering neither she, nor her mother, nor her husband are Jewish”. That’s hilarious and quite accurate. She might as well announce that she is raising her kids Eskimo. Although it would be smarter to raise them as Navajos and get them a piece of that casino income.



If you are Orthodox then being Jewish is both a religion and a nationality. If you are a Zionist it is not a religion, and if you are a Reform Jew it is not a nationality, but until now we have had no category for ‘none of the above’.



Comment by Ben Plonie on 7/26/11 at 2:42 pm

This seems kind of odd in light of her husband’s support of the Palestinians. Do a search on Chris Martin and Palestine.



Comment by Jason on 7/27/11 at 7:16 pm

I just did. Not to judge a book by its cover, but he looks like a moron. As for G.P.‘s intention; depending on your POV being Jewish has nothing to do with family, God, Israel, history, sprituality, religion, politics, self interest, self determination, ritual, practices, disciplines or a given culture. It is entirely subjective and inconsistent between individuals, and who is qualified to say which is right and what is real? This is how you get ‘rabbis’ for Palestine and all that. Today it has become a good deed for some to support Israel’s enemies and undermine Israel. These are people so removed from reality that the are not capable of considering the source of those ideas.



Comment by Ben Plonie on 7/28/11 at 7:51 pm

The Jewish people are an ethnic group first, and being Jewish comes from either one or both of the sides—ignore Kiddushin 68b, and focus on D’varim 7:1-5 for itself. In light of D’varim 7:1-5 (among other parshot), I find Gwyneth Paltrow to be a Self-Hating Jew who does no good for ‘ameinu by supporting Pleshet over Yisra’el—what is a Jewish woman doing supporting the remnant of Goliat’s people over the fellow descendants of Ya’akov?



Comment by Nicole Czarnecki on 7/31/11 at 2:43 pm

This whole thing is Bulls—t!!!! If you had a Jewish and a non-Jewish parent usually you grew up favoring one or the other!!!

Whether your mother or father was Jewish is besides the point!!! If you believe you are Jewish and claim to be then you are!!! Bill Maher’s mother was Jewish…he was raised Catholic…he never claimed to be Jewish…he is NOT Jewish!!! Paul Newman’s mother was not Jewish he chose to be Jewish…therefore he was Jewish!!!

Michael Douglas was raised ???...his mother was not Jewish…He always felt Jewish via his dad…He Is Jewish!!!



Comment by Nate Goldstein on 8/10/11 at 9:38 am

I remember when Michael Douglas MC’d an Israeli Special Anniversary on TV and said he was proud to be a Jew…later in the newspapers some crazy orthodox rabbi’s claimed he was not Jewish because of his mother…Michael was incensed claiming who were those nuts to tell him what he was or wasn’t??? Sarah Michelle Gellar & Julia Louis Dreyfus both deny being Jewish…srew ‘em…so be it!!! Michael Richards, neither parent Jewish, believes he is Jewish…says he always felt Jewish…What do we do with him???



Comment by Marty Stone on 8/10/11 at 9:50 am

To be a Jew is to be a citizen of the Israelite nation. We have a federal nation and the tribes are our states.



1) A child of two Jewish parents is a citizen of Israel and with inheritance rights in its father’s state.

2) A child of a Jewish father only is not a citizen of Israel.

3) A child of a Jewish mother only is a citizen of Israel but a citizen of no state, with no land rights.

4) A naturalized citizen (convert) is comparable to one with no Jewish father.



The law is the law and it doesn’t matter how we feel about it. The law is never going away.



Comment by Ben Plonie on 8/10/11 at 9:30 pm

Today the Indians have casinos and each Indian receives a share of the casino income. Anyone who is not a lawful Jew but insists he or she is one can try to claim to be a Cherokee and demand some of the casino income.



Comment by Ben Plonie on 8/10/11 at 9:31 pm

...More BS…More BS…if you left it up to the hypocritical orthodox Jews there would be NO Israel!!! How dare they refuse to accept someone as a Jew if they want to be one merely because their mother is a non Jew!!! We can’t afford to throw away our “Lantzmann” like that and survive. My family is secular, yet we follow all the holidays, our kids married Jews and we have been told that we are the most “Culturally Jewish” people any of our friends know!!! Let your local Chabbad fight us over whether we are Jews just because we don’t go to Temple.



Comment by Nate Goldstein on 8/10/11 at 11:20 pm

Meanwhile, a now-former friend of mine who’s a kohein (as my sister told me) thinks that Judaism is meshuga, although he loves being Jewish and supports Israel—and he’s very Far Left! As Nate Goldstein noted, “Let your local Chabbad fight us over whether we are Jews just because we don’t go to Temple.” In fact, isn’t that why many of us don’t even go to Temple or any shul of any sort? Granted that I’m a Messianic Jew, but that’s actually another thing as well—why can’t Jews believe in Jesus (Yeshua) if we can believe in Bar Kochva, Menachem Schneerson, or whoever else one could name?



Comment by Nicole Czarnecki on 8/10/11 at 11:31 pm

Hey Nicole…you lost me with…“I’m a Messianic Jew”!!! We can’t believe in jesus because he turned left while the rest of us were going right!!!



Jews for Jesus are christians…very simple!!!

Jesus was a Jew who was searching…his followers decided he was the deity!!!

In their misguided faith in their new religion the christ followers decided to “murder off” the competition…I give you the inquisition, the pogroms, the holocaust, etc.all!!!



Because of that history…switching sides, as you did, and trying to take others of us with you becomes the ultimate blasphemy and indignity towards those LOST millions of our bretheren!!!



Comment by Nate Goldstein on 8/11/11 at 10:17 am

Nate, I wasn’t here to proselytize but to give an example re your point. You sadly made your own point: “...More BS…More BS…if you left it up to the hypocritical orthodox Jews there would be NO Israel!!!” and “Let your local Chabbad fight us over whether we are Jews just because we don’t go to Temple.” You are more fit to join a haredi (“Chabad”) movement than you would like to claim.



Comment by Nicole Czarnecki on 8/11/11 at 11:08 pm

Nicole:

nah…you’re wrong…we are basicly agnostic/secularists. HOWEVER…we are very strongly Jewish culturists!!!....we won’t go to temple…but we’ve been to Israel 3 times…and support them AS MUCH AS Possible!!!...also we just about “Kvell” when we pass by the ultra orthodox with the remnents of their Russian black garb walking with their familys on Pico/Fairfax area….because they are fighting their uphill battle to preserve their faith.



BUT NOW…it’s just because of that Jewish DNA that I possess that I go crazy when I come across messianics and jews for jesus.



Comment by Nate Goldstein on 8/12/11 at 12:56 pm

“Jews” for Jesus is the title of a Christian religious organization. It’s not that we “can’t” believe in Jesus (whatever that means),it’s that there is no “Jesus” in Jewish culture, tradition, scripture,or religious practices. When you’re Jewish, temple or not, there is no worldview that encompasses any type of “salvation” because a human allowed himself to be sacrificed as some sort of political statement.



Comment by Shani on 8/12/11 at 4:35 pm

Nate and Shani, you two are proving that many Jews are way too elitist against fellow Jews. Also, I already clarified that I’m not here to proselytize. So, knock off your Anti Missionarism.



Comment by Nicole Czarnecki on 8/12/11 at 4:43 pm

Why would I “knock off” being against missionizing? In any case, you can missionize to your heart’s content,but if you think such an action is culturally,socially,politically,religiously, or traditionally Jewish, you are wrong. Missionizing or suggesting we’re “incomplete”, (as many missionaries claim), is elitist.As a Christian, you have to live with the consequences of the choice you made. You cannot expect observant Jews to understand those of you who believe in a life philosophy that encompasses the antithesis of being Jewish.



Comment by Shani on 8/14/11 at 8:59 pm

If you want to be a messianic…go be it!!!...but keep it to yourself!!!



As soon as you try to drag your fellow Jews along you’re nothing better than a turncoat/traitor who’s pissing on the graves of the multi-millions who died rather than give up their spiritual beliefs.



Comment by Nate Goldstein on 8/24/11 at 3:40 pm

Shani, I already stated that I already clarified that I’m not here to proselytize. I simply mentioned that I’m a Messianic Jew to be in full disclosure. As I said, “In fact, isn’t that why many of us don’t even go to Temple or any shul of any sort? Granted that I’m a Messianic Jew, but that’s actually another thing as well—why can’t Jews believe in Jesus (Yeshua) if we can believe in Bar Kochva, Menachem Schneerson, or whoever else one could name?”



What’s elitist is suggesting that I may not believe that Jesus (Yeshua) is the Messiah if another Jew can believe that Bar Kosiva or Menachem Schneerson is Mashiach.



Comment by Nicole Czarnecki on 8/24/11 at 3:41 pm

Nate and Shani, I wasn’t trying to drag anyone along; and I find your attitude unacceptably and intolerably elitist, as I was merely disclosing my Messianic Jewish beliefs in order to explain why I understand why many Jews do not go to shul—because of both intolerance of haredim and frankly because of intolerance such as yours.



Comment by Nickidewbear on 8/24/11 at 4:01 pm

Jews don’t “believe in” Jesus. Period. Christians, and only Christians do. There is a major difference between being fooled/hoping someone is Messiah and believing that a man who died thousands of years ago is G_d. One action is naive, the other goes against the soul.



Comment by Shani on 8/24/11 at 5:14 pm

Perhaps Ilana Angel ought to have chazak v'ematz and write "Are Jews Too Elitist To Accept Jewish Christians [or Messianic Jews, or Jews for Jesus, or followers of Jesus of Nazareth]"?

Is Ilana Angel Elitist? We Know That Haredim Are Elitist; So To Dexter's Point

The Jewish people are an ethnic group first, and being Jewish comes from either one or both of the sides-- ignore Kiddushin 68b, and focus on D'varim 7:1-5 for itself. In light of D'varim 7:1-5 (among other parshot), I find Gwyneth Paltrow to be a Self-Hating Jew who does no good for 'ameinu by supporting Pleshet over Yisra'el-- what is a Jewish woman doing supporting the remnant of Goliat's people over the fellow descendants of Ya'akov?

By the way, Ilana's chutzpah is staggering (and "hutz-pah"; the "c" is silent or not there in the original Hebrew, which is what Yidish messed up. I just wanted to remind Rep. Michele "Party of 'No'" Bachmann as she jeporadizes the US' greatest ally by voting "No" on even the McConnell Compromise-- how'd the Reid and $2.8-T ones work, Rep. Bachmann?).

Why Do Wicked Men Prevail?

Yesterday

Don Christolear

Disrespectful

I find your upside down flag very disrespectful. I don't care how upset you might be with our current administration, as I am, but you do dishonor to the flag by displaying it that way. You, personally, are not in distress. That's the ONLY reason you're to hang the flag in that manner.

Yesterday

Nicole Czarnecki

Sir, with all due respect, everyone should be in distress over the economic and partisan political situation in this country. And as a Jew, I note how Israel's greatest ally is inevitably going to fall on August 2nd unless by some miracle.

Yesterday

Don Christolear

I agree with all of the above but you are still disrespecting my flag by displaying that way. You are young so you haven't yet learned what that flag represents. I'm as conservative as they make them but I would never disrespect my flag by using it as a protest symbol. We work with many veterans and current military who would be glad to remove a flag displayed in this manner if it were hanging from your home.


And, BTW, the sky is not falling as politicians from both sides wish you to believe.


Lastly, I too am a huge supporter of Israel but do not understand the connection to the current situation.


Because our fighting men and women gave you the right to display the flag in this manner, I am simply asking you to replace it to show respect to all who have fought and died for that very flag.


Thank you

18 hours ago

Nicole Czarnecki

Sir, I understand exactly why the flag should be upside down; and if we default, the sky (so to speak) will fall. And if you support Israel, you should know that the US is her greatest ally and that many of us in the Diaspora came here when we could not make aliyah (a return to Israel). BTW, I have relatives, both living and deceased, who fought under that flag-- and one of whom died under that flag, and who this country never honored (given that he was a Jew and a Catholic, and that it took him 18 years to die from his war injuries).

I find your assumptions and presumptions arrogant, and your ignorance and apathy especially regarding US-Israel (American-Jewish, including Jewish-American intra- and inter-relations) Anti Semitic.

17 minutes ago

Don Christolear

So, the fact that I am a Christian and believes that the Jews are God's chosen people, this makes me an anti Semite? Little girl, little girl, you have a lot to learn about people. You're way too young to be this angry.


I, too, was a liberal when I was young but I grew up.

Arrogant? Call it what you will. I just call it being tired of crybaby kids who have NO clue on what's really happening in this great country and refuse to let you anti Americans destroy it. I can keep this up as long as you want but would rather not waste my time with you. I'll pray to the God of the Jews and then of the Christians that He direct your hostilities in a more positive direction.

I also respect Israel so much that I would NEVER disrespect their flag in the manner that you're disrespecting mine.

What makes Don Christolear more of a vile bully is that he also blocked me so that I could not respond to his deliberate twisting and decontextualization of my words. At times like these, I'm reminded of the following:

7 O LORD, You induced me, and I was persuaded;

You are stronger than I, and have prevailed.

I am in derision daily;

Everyone mocks me.

8 For when I spoke, I cried out;

I shouted, “Violence and plunder!”

Because the word of the LORD was made to me

A reproach and a derision daily.

9 Then I said, “I will not make mention of Him,

Nor speak anymore in His name.”

But His word was in my heart like a burning fire

Shut up in my bones;

I was weary of holding it back,

And I could not.

10 For I heard many mocking:



“ Fear on every side!”



“ Report,” they say, “and we will report it!”

All my acquaintances watched for my stumbling, saying,



“ Perhaps he can be induced;

Then we will prevail against him,

And we will take our revenge on him.”

11 But the LORD is with me as a mighty, awesome One.

Therefore my persecutors will stumble, and will not prevail.

They will be greatly ashamed, for they will not prosper.

Their everlasting confusion will never be forgotten.

12 But, O LORD of hosts,

You who test the righteous,

And see the mind and heart,

Let me see Your vengeance on them;

For I have pleaded my cause before You.

13 Sing to the LORD! Praise the LORD!

For He has delivered the life of the poor

From the hand of evildoers.

14 Cursed be the day in which I was born!

Let the day not be blessed in which my mother bore me!

15 Let the man be cursed

Who brought news to my father, saying,



“ A male child has been born to you!”

Making him very glad.

16 And let that man be like the cities

Which the LORD overthrew, and did not relent;

Let him hear the cry in the morning

And the shouting at noon,

17 Because he did not kill me from the womb,

That my mother might have been my grave,

And her womb always enlarged with me.

18 Why did I come forth from the womb to see labor and sorrow,

That my days should be consumed with shame?

And:

Righteous are You, O LORD, when I plead with You;


Yet let me talk with You about Your judgments.

Why does the way of the wicked prosper?

Why are those happy who deal so treacherously?

2 You have planted them, yes, they have taken root;

They grow, yes, they bear fruit.

You are near in their mouth

But far from their mind.

3 But You, O LORD, know me;

You have seen me,

And You have tested my heart toward You.

Pull them out like sheep for the slaughter,

And prepare them for the day of slaughter.

4 How long will the land mourn,

And the herbs of every field wither?

The beasts and birds are consumed,

For the wickedness of those who dwell there,

Because they said, “He will not see our final end.”

When You're Like Me; Suicide Is Still Awfully Tempting No Matter How Painful It Is

And maybe that's part of suicide's appeal-- the pain, the selfishness. For example, some people say that would miss me if I committed suicide-- boy, would I like to come back and see them put their money where there mouth is (I almost typed "mouth where their money is", but maybe that, too.). Besides, if they want me around so badly (and with all due respect and deference, STFU if you want to start kvetching about how this is typical suicidal talk, etc.; you will utz me):

1. Why do they treat me like they'd rather me be dead? And while they're at it; some of them hate me because I'm on the lowest of the lowest, of the lowest of the lowest rung of the social ladder in general society-- the disabled. For example, I have Cerebral Palsy (Diplegic Spastia); and I don't hear anyone talking about Julie Cirella anymore-- in fact, I almost suspect that some think that Julie Cirella's mother did the right and honorable thing. But they sure as Heaven and Hell wouldn't say that if Julie Cirella weren't disabled (and forget that she's Black-- her disability, not her ethnicity, is what makes her less honored than Caylee Anthony, Leiby Kletzky-- of whom I am a fellow Israelite--, and the Coleman boys, for example.).
2. Why do some of them try to contol my life and otherwise abuse (including ignore and withhold important information, including documents) from me, knowing that they damned well couldn't do that if I weren't disabled? FYI, Dad; were I not disabled, you never would've gotten away with even some of your physical abuse, let alone (among other actions) your verbal and other non-physical abuse and withholding that Great-Granddad Czarnecki and Great-Great-Granddad Foczko both committed suicide (which would have explained why I tried to commit suicide-- people without a history of suicide and/or other significant issues in their family and other history don't attempt or threaten suicide).
3. Same question above, except my prime example-- my thought policewoman of a mother. You damned well know, Mom, that you would never try to control what I at 21 years old say, do, etc. if I weren't disabled and had prospects. And I'm sorrowed (Why should I be "sorry"? I'm not apologizing for having my own thoughts, etc. at 21; so I'm sorrowed)  that, for example, my being proud of my Jewish heritage (no matter how unproud of it Dad and his family are) isn't your cup of tea. Besides, see if I ever tweet about anything that you might need prayer for or any appreciation of anything that you do or go through again-- after all, you "don't want to live [your] life out in the public venue".

I could give more examples, but I think that being on the most-times-over-lowest-of-the-lowest rung of the social ladder and easily abusable because of my Cerebral Palsy is an understandable reason for why I'm still often quite tempted to commit selfish suicide-- rub the pain that they've affected and effected in, and get the last laugh ("See you suckers! I'll be in Heaven; you'll still be here!").

What I Was Going To Write To Kevin When He Refriended Me-- And He Refriended Me As He Said & I Began To Write This

Kevin:




Just to let you know; as a cousin and fellow Christian, I love and forgive you; and apologize for what I need to apologize. I want you to know that you don't have to feel compelled to refriend me if your heart really is not in it, even if it would seem to be the Christian thing to do. For your sake, I'm just asking you to think about that.



I don't need you to refriend me if you don't want to-- don't you feel guilted into that. If you and others are angry at me, so what? More than anything, I would rather each and all of us be in friendship with G-d even if never are in friendship with each other until the next lifetime, be that "when He returns or calls us home".



It is not easy for me to see how our family has really been over the years, especially in regards to the Gospel:

"I tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit, that I have great sorrow and continual grief in my heart. For I could wish that I myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my countrymen according to the flesh, who are Israelites, to whom pertain the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the service of God, and the promises; of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen."

I think that, more than anything, instead of coming to the One who can bind our wounds; we tried to cover our own wounds and only made our own wounds worse as well as hurt others-- especially "[our] brethren, [our] countrymen according to the flesh".

As I told you:

Whenever I heard Andrew and Julia Fosko Rusnak spoken of-- they were immigrants from Slovakia or Czechoslovakia who married in 1905, had kids, etc.. Never did I know that our family (even if I disagreed with some of the intent of their decisions)-- for example-- came over here to escape persecution after we couldn't assimilate in Slovakia; and many of us weren't just Crypto Jews (although some were, which is where I disagree with the intent: regardless of the meshuga AntiSemitism in the Church, we should've given Jesus a chance in our lives; and if and when our relatives thought that we were joining the traitors, so what?! And many of us were Jews who believed in Jesus; we were just too damned afraid and too damned quiet to emphasize that part) .



Truth is a lot better (even if stranger and more disquieting) than fiction. By the way, I look at Great-Granduncles Andy, Carl, and Joe all the more as heroes for their going over there (Well, Great-Granduncles Carl and Joe were able to; but on the homefront, there was still Anti Semitism and also that "You can't be a Jew for Jesus!" attitude that Great-Granduncle Andy had to deal with every day!).

And as I wrote to you in the last blog entry (and as hard as it can be-- and I've confessed that I continue to struggle with Self-Hating-Jewish thoughts every day, and I'll continue to day-by-day process that I have both more privilege and responsibility than the Polish-Irish-and-whatever-else gentile that I thought that I was):

I intend to be that one or even one of those ones-- and Kevin Fosko, we can be Jews for Jesus. The question for you is what you're going to do: are you going to keep being like the generation who ultimately betrayed the Yehoshua Sh'mu'el Rusnak side of the family, or are you going to not have the inquity visit the next three and four generations-- should there even be such with the way that this world is going?

I also said that "I'm not perfect and I do a lot of imperfect and imperfected things; but, Kevin Fosko, I will speak about our family. I will speak about what happened. I will speak about what I found out."

I should've sometimes taken the higher road on things, but sometimes my attitude had to be (or at least seem) rough and tough on things-- and I love my family, even if some of you all won't ever love me-- let alone love me again, if you did.

Before I keep kvetching and before I utz you, I ask you to think carefully about your decision. And if you decide not to refriend me after all, it's as those two country songs go: "I'm gonna smile..." (and I told you that in another blog entry, too-- and I told other family members as well. Don't think that I'm talking to only you.) and "It's okay to hurt, and it's okay to cry".

And as I said, I think that, more than anything, instead of coming to the One who can bind our wounds; we tried to cover our own wounds and only made our own wounds worse as well as hurt others-- especially "[our] brethren, [our] countrymen according to the flesh".

Can't we just hurt and cry for once-- and come to Jesus and not suffer ourselves or hurt others?

Your Job Might Be At Risk, But Vilmosz's Life Was All the More So...

And I'm not perfect and I do a lot of imperfect and imperfected things; but, Kevin Fosko, I will speak about our family. I will speak about what happened. I will speak about what I found out.

I will take you, one from a city and two from a family, and I will bring you to Zion. (Jeremiah 3:14b, NKJV)

I intend to be that one or even one of those ones-- and Kevin Fosko, we can be Jews for Jesus. The question for you is what you're going to do: are you going to keep being like the generation who ultimately betrayed the Yehoshua Sh'mu'el Rusnak side of the family, or are you going to not have the inquity visit the next three and four generations-- should there even be such with the way that this world is going?

Exodus 34:6-8

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6 And the LORD passed before him and proclaimed, “The LORD, the LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abounding in goodness and truth, 7 keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children and the children’s children to the third and the fourth generation.”

8 So Moses made haste and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshiped.

Joshua 24:14-15

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14 “Now therefore, fear the LORD, serve Him in sincerity and in truth, and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the River and in Egypt. Serve the LORD! 15 And if it seems evil to you to serve the LORD, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.”

Jeremiah 8:1-6


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1 “At that time,” says the LORD, “they shall bring out the bones of the kings of Judah, and the bones of its princes, and the bones of the priests, and the bones of the prophets, and the bones of the inhabitants of Jerusalem, out of their graves. 2 They shall spread them before the sun and the moon and all the host of heaven, which they have loved and which they have served and after which they have walked, which they have sought and which they have worshiped. They shall not be gathered nor buried; they shall be like refuse on the face of the earth. 3 Then death shall be chosen rather than life by all the residue of those who remain of this evil family, who remain in all the places where I have driven them,” says the LORD of hosts.

4 “Moreover you shall say to them, ‘Thus says the LORD:

“ Will they fall and not rise?

Will one turn away and not return?

5 Why has this people slidden back,

Jerusalem, in a perpetual backsliding?

They hold fast to deceit,

They refuse to return.

6 I listened and heard,

But they do not speak aright.

No man repented of his wickedness,

Saying, ‘What have I done?’

Everyone turned to his own course,

As the horse rushes into the battle.

History Repeats- And Even if Brevik Is Far Right, History Repeats

The Nazis hated Jews and Communists. Why? Because Communism was a Jewish idea, invented with a Non-Messanic Jew's best intents after he had suffered horrible Anti Semitism at the hands of the now-united German government and seen the Industrial Revolution be driven by Capitalism without common sense and compassion; and that is the only reason that the Nazis hated an ideology that had become equally as Far Leftist under Stalin as Nazism-- Nationalist German Socialist Workerism-- was.

Also, Far Leftists hate Far Leftists; and a Self-Hating Jew named Adolf Hitler who was as Leftist as-- or even more Leftist than-- Stalin hated competition. Just like control freaks, sociopaths, and others who manifest the worst of bad-enough human nature; Far Leftists hate competition.

On the other side are the Far Rightists like Ann Coulter, Jan Brewer, Michelle Malkin, and Laura Ingraham-- who, if you really probe them and watch them closely-- want nothing to do with anyone but their own-- and their own includes especially usually those of their own ethnic background and national and political ideology. For example, b'tzlacha ever being perfected-- especially a perfected Jew-- in Ann Coulter's eyes unless you're Dennis Prager, Mark Levin, or maybe even the late Meir Kahane. As for Jan Brewer, buena suerte con estando una persona aceptable unless you're a White, Anglo-Saxon, fully- or almost-fully gentile Protestant who was born to legal nless you're a White, Anglo-Saxon, fully- or almost-fully gentile Protestant immigrants or US-born citizens.

As for Anders Brevik, only in the passing of time will we find out whether he is actually Far Right or Far Left.

Putting On the Full Armor of G-d, and Walking Across the Jordan and The Jordan Valley With It

Numbers 32:16-27

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16 Then they came near to him and said: "We will build sheepfolds here for our livestock, and cities for our little ones, 17 but we ourselves will be armed, ready to go before the children of Israel until we have brought them to their place; and our little ones will dwell in the fortified cities because of the inhabitants of the land. 18 We will not return to our homes until every one of the children of Israel has received his inheritance. 19 For we will not inherit with them on the other side of the Jordan and beyond, because our inheritance has fallen to us on this eastern side of the Jordan."

20 Then Moses said to them: "If you do this thing, if you arm yourselves before the LORD for the war, 21 and all your armed men cross over the Jordan before the LORD until He has driven out His enemies from before Him, 22 and the land is subdued before the LORD, then afterward you may return and be blameless before the LORD and before Israel; and this land shall be your possession before the LORD. 23 But if you do not do so, then take note, you have sinned against the LORD; and be sure your sin will find you out. 24 Build cities for your little ones and folds for your sheep, and do what has proceeded out of your mouth."

25 And the children of Gad and the children of Reuben spoke to Moses, saying: "Your servants will do as my lord commands. 26 Our little ones, our wives, our flocks, and all our livestock will be there in the cities of Gilead; 27 but your servants will cross over, every man armed for war, before the LORD to battle, just as my lord says."









Jeremiah 3:13-15

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13 Only acknowledge your iniquity,

That you have transgressed against the LORD your God,

And have scattered your charms

To alien deities under every green tree,

And you have not obeyed My voice,' says the LORD.



14 "Return, O backsliding children," says the LORD; "for I am married to you. I will take you, one from a city and two from a family, and I will bring you to Zion. 15 And I will give you shepherds according to My heart, who will feed you with knowledge and understanding.





1 Kings 19:15-18

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15 Then the LORD said to him: "Go, return on your way to the Wilderness of Damascus; and when you arrive, anoint Hazael as king over Syria. 16 Also you shall anoint Jehu the son of Nimshi as king over Israel. And Elisha the son of Shaphat of Abel Meholah you shall anoint as prophet in your place. 17 It shall be that whoever escapes the sword of Hazael, Jehu will kill; and whoever escapes the sword of Jehu, Elisha will kill. 18 Yet I have reserved seven thousand in Israel, all whose knees have not bowed to Baal, and every mouth that has not kissed him."





Luke 8:16-18

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The Parable of the Revealed Light

16 "No one, when he has lit a lamp, covers it with a vessel or puts it under a bed, but sets it on a lampstand, that those who enter may see the light. 17 For nothing is secret that will not be revealed, nor anything hidden that will not be known and come to light. 18 Therefore take heed how you hear. For whoever has, to him more will be given; and whoever does not have, even what he seems to have will be taken from him."

Keep walking. Keep carrying your cross to the Mountain of G-d.

"I'm Gonna Smile"- And Not Because I'm Happy, But Because I Can Be Joyful

And even though there are moments where I don't feel that I forgive you and I say the opposite of it, I forgive you and I'm going to forgive you-- not because I forgive you, but because I've been forgiven. And I'm going to have moments when I say that I hate you, but I have to love you even if I intensely dislike you-- because I was loved first, and not by you. And it's like I told someone in the Casey Anthony case:

 I don't agree with Geraldo and the jury, but I agree that the hate against Geraldo is uncalled for. Not that I think that hate against anyone else-- even against Casey and Jose Baez-- is okay, but I understand people being very angry about what happened. I think that we can hate what happened without hating any of the parties involved.

Same thing with you and Great-Grandma Gaydos-- among others-- regarding Pepi, Vilmosz, and others who you have hurt and betrayed over the years (and you've ultimately hurt yourselves)-- I'm learning to forgive you all.

I'm learning to forgive and forget-- not forget as in forget to ponder in my heart, but forget as in don't begrudge even though I'll have learned from experience and still be wary, and understand and know what to do (and because G-d will help me deal with what I need to deal with, and help me deal with who I need to deal with).

Kevin Still Hates That We're Jewish-- He Thinks That I'm Advocating Apostasy; But I'm Actually, Among Other Things, Holding Great-Granduncle Carl Up As a Hero

First, the part where I supplemented my original reply:

http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2011/03/the_depths_of_f.html

Even more pro-FDR sources are conceding (even if between the lines) that FDR was a notorious, pro-Grand Mufti, pro-Hitler Anti Semite.

In a message... [I wrote]:

http://www.newsweek.com/1994/04/17/did-fdr-betray-the-jews.html

So why did Great-Grandma let the Anti Semites and Anti Missionaries scare her into enabling the murder of Vilmosz, David, Pepi, and their side of the family? Great-Granduncle Carl didn't.

In a message, [Kevin, who is being cocky and actually being rude as well as assuming in his position that the letters couldn't have been translated or that I could read at least the dates in Slovakian and/or maybe even Yidish] writes:
No mistake was uncovered. You wouldn't be able to read the letters anyway because they are written in Slovak. I don't appreciate your rudeness after the help I gave you in your genealogical quest...

My original reply:

I'm not trying to be rude, but I'm being blunt. Besides, as I said, " if the letters weren't so bad, why did Grandaunt Mary Ann not give the dates or specific contents of the letters?" Both of us have seen that this is a clear pattern in certainly the Fosko Family (I never heard that your great-granddad was sent away, let alone that you existed, for example!).



These cover ups (so many of them) have divided our family on our common and all sides right here in America; and some of us aren't even talking to each other because of the "Who's not telling what?" and "Who's hiding what?" games? Besides, how can we forgive and bring redemption into and out of family situations which we don't even know-- or talk-- about?



Whenever I heard Andrew and Julia Fosko Rusnak spoken of-- they were immigrants from Slovakia or Czechoslovakia who married in 1905, had kids, etc.. Never did I know that our family (even if I disagreed with some of the intent of their decisions)-- for example-- came over here to escape persecution after we couldn't assimilate in Slovakia; and many of us weren't just Crypto Jews (although some were, which is where I disagree with the intent: regardless of the meshuga AntiSemitism in the Church, we should've given Jesus a chance in our lives; and if and when our relatives thought that we were joining the traitors, so what?! And many of us were Jews who believed in Jesus; we were just too damned afraid and too damned quiet to emphasize that part) .



Truth is a lot better (even if stranger and more disquieting) than fiction. By the way, I look at Great-Granduncles Andy, Carl, and Joe all the more as heroes for their going over there (Well, Great-Granduncles Carl and Joe were able to; but on the homefront, there was still Anti Semitism and also that "You can't be a Jew for Jesus!" attitude that Great-Granduncle Andy had to deal with every day!).



And for example, with Great-Granduncle Carl; how would you have liked to ever have the possibility that you may have to step into especially Czechoslovakia and Hungary if the war took you there, particularly when the Germans were looking for Jewish (even Messianic (Christian) Jewish) military personnel and civilians to kidnap and ship off to murder and POW-murder camps? And given that the Rusnaks were a prominent family in Kosice, (Czecho)Slovakia (Kassa, Hungary); the Germans and other Anti Semites would be on the lookout for Rusnaks trying to come in and help Vilmosz et. al.-- and other Jewish people trying to help others.



(By the way, I'm not saying that, that excuses Great-Grandma's stopping to write either: letters seemed bad enough to smuggle; but Great-Granduncle Carl put himself there for his country and fellow Jews in and who were certainly at risk because the Holocaust-- even if you were in a Jew in the Allied Countries, you were at risk; and actually, that's part of why Great-Grandma should've helped instead of hurt Vilmosz et. al. all the more: so to speak and pardon my language, screw FDR and his isolationist, pro-UN and pro-Grand Mufti, Anti-Jewish and Anti-Israel policies!



(FDR was a known Anti Semite who wanted to not just stay out of ending the Holocaust and out of World War, but also to hurt the Jews and-- for a lack of a better term and if you will, since this how Anti Semites like FDR would've thought-- "let Europe take care of the Jews". FDR actually even wrote a letter saying that he did not support the founding of a Jewish state in the Middle East, and he appointed Bernard Baruch as his scapegoat to take blame for what was often called "The Jew Deal".)



Given, then, the example of the recollection of FDRs and other Anti-Semitic WASPs-- and Anti-Semitic Europe-- on one hand, and the Antimissionary (Anti-Messianic-Jewish) crowd on the other; Great-Granduncles Carl, Joseph, and Andy, and others who have a place of honor within the family history and within history; shouldn't we at least tell what really happened to honor those who did the right thing and brought redemption into and out of our family, instead of covering even the good up with the bad?



As I said, for instance, Great-Granduncle Carl did put himself over there knowing that the European Theater could take him in the footsteps of his parents and right into the hands of Germans who were looking for more Jewish Rusnaks and other Jews to kidnap and imprison in murder camps-- and what Mary Rusnak Gaydos did makes her brother Carl all the braver and more righteous: Sgt. Carl Rusnak basically stood up and said by standing up, "I'm going to go over there and help our family, help our fellow Jews, and help my native country-- even if many of them don't like Jews! I'm not going to let the Anti Semites and Antimissionaries scare me out of doing the right thing."



Nicole

I Had To Make This Facebook Status Update a Blog Entry

Original format:

Nicole Czarnecki (aka, "Nickidewbear")

now has 62 friend requests, none from relatives as far as I know. 62 friend requestors won't even like this page before they befriend me, and I have relatives who'd probably step on my neck if they could get away with it. The weird part comes in when one considers that 62 friend requestors won't like this page first...

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Nicole Czarnecki (aka, "Nickidewbear") The actually-not-weird part is that strangers seem to like me better than relatives. Then again, some strangers want to join my relatives in stepping on my neck.

Format in which it would've been had Facebook not cut status updates off at 420 characters:

Nicole Czarnecki (aka, "Nickidewbear") now has 62 friend requests, none from relatives as far as I know. 62 friend requestors won't even like this page before they befriend me, and I have relatives who'd probably step on my neck if they could get away with it. The weird part comes in when one considers that 62 friend requestors won't like this page first; the actually-not-weird part is that strangers seem to like me better than relatives. Then again, some strangers want to join my relatives in stepping on my neck.

Part of This E-Mail Had To Do With Certain Relatives, But There Was A Bigger Picture

Besides Chron's and OCD, there's much worse plaguing the Fosko-Rusnak Family: it's a spiritual sickness-- and one that might justly cost us any chance to make aliyah.

By the way, this e-mail correspondence is chronicled in recency order; because I frankly didn't feel like copying and pasting, and putting things in standard chronological order-- and besides; family history is often discovered via recency (instead of standard) chronology, and keeping the e-mail correspondence in backward order may provide comic relief for the fact that you have to read it in a down-to-up-- not up-to-down- order (Then again, the suggestion of any comic relief probably is a little sick.).

Neither did the prosecution in Casey Anthony's case, right? Unlike you and the rest of the family (or at least certain people in the family), I know that common sense allows for circumstantial evidence. By the way, if the letters weren't so bad, why did Grandaunt Mary Ann not give the dates or specific contents of the letters?




I am ashamed that some in the family are so corrupt as to hide what is a forgivable mistake that-- as forgivable as it is-- still needs to be dealt with. I am further ashamed that said forgivable mistake is being made to be unforgivable by being hidden and then, once uncovered, excused and/or justified.



I understand that US foreign policy at the time was isolationist, times were bad especially for Crypto and Messianic Jews in America (where being Jewish and a Christian was apparently supposed to be okay; but the "G-d forbid if you even act like a Jew for Jesus, let alone are a Jew for Jesus" and "the Jews are Christ killers" attitudes still applied), etc.



Nonetheless, Great-Grandma was reached out to by relatives who had that very "G-d forbid if you even act like a Jew for Jesus" attitude, because they trusted that even who they considered a meshumadah and koferah would do the Christian thing that she claimed to live by and follow the higher good. And Great-Grandma (so to speak) dropped the ball and cost lives by her actions.



By the way, there are those who would get word of what Great-Grandma did and snicker, "Oh; not only are Jews the Christ killers, now they even betray their own-- as if they didn't betray one of their own before!" Are you honestly okay with that, and all because we justify a significant reason why many of our relatives continue to hate the very name of Jesus (or at least our use of it), and why many gentiles continually blaspheme G-d and attack the Jewish people?



PS If you ever try to make aliyah, I won't blame the Israeli government if they won't welcome you-- they would have every reason to use that you justified a traitor to relatives who were trying to make aliyah!



In a message dated 7/16/2011 5:56:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [Kev] writes:

Nicole,



There is no evidence of any kind of coverup or wrong-doing. The letters I am aware of were written in the late 1940's, after WWII ended and after Julia had died. Mary Ann's mother reached out in a good-will effort to see how people were back home, and probably to also let them know Julia had died. Mary had five children to feed and times were tough here after the War too. How could she be expected to send money overseas?



Andrew Rusnak's parents were married in the same Greek Byzantine Catholic church on Nov 5, 1876 that Andrew and Julia were baptized at. Andrew's naturalization papers state he was born in Aryanidka.



Enough is enough, Nikki, your anger and rhetoric is missplaced. You have a right to your opinion, but you have no facts to back up your accusations.



Kevin

[Misplaced.... We'll see what happens when we can't make aliyah because of him; then he can talk about "misplaced". Besides, as I mentioned in the video to which this blog entry is a description, the anger is certainly not misplaced.]





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From: [Me. By the way, I don't see why they want to think that G-d is kidding about sin visiting the third and fourth generations-- and giving Non-Messianic Jews, or at least those who aren't Crypto and Non-Messianic Jews, and gentiles to blaspheme Yeshua.]

Subject: Re: By the Way....





[Cousin]:

What I disparage more than anything is the image that we have created of Great-Grandma as such: admirable. I also disparage the same with our family: how can we be admirable in covering up and/or justifying such actions as Great-Grandma did, and ones that were done to and within our own family? With a family-- especially where the Gospel is concerned-- a family must be looked at in how they preached and lived the Gospel within and outside of the family-- and that means admitting, repenting for, and looking for redemption in instead of covering up and justifying inexcusable mistakes.



What admiration is there in stopping correspondence with Vilmosz Rusnak and his brother-in-law (the husband of Pepi Rusnakova Grinfeldova) Zoltan Grinfeld (both of whom had children-- Fredi, hardly a year old; Sandor and Miklos, one of whom was 10 and the other 12) when they trusted even the oldest daughter of who they consider a kofer, a meshud; and she betrayed them and, to make it worse, hid what she did that caused them to both:



1) die in the Holocaust (all of the Rusnaks for whom help was asked died at Auschwitz and other murder camps; except for Tibor Rusnak, who understandably went to Ohio after surviving the Holocaust and did not talk to our side of the family in Pennsylvania)



and



2) Think all the less of Jesus because of our actions. Their (that is, Vilmosz's) dad Yehoshua Samuel considered Jakub and Maria Novakova Rusnak, the parents of Great-Great-Granddad Rusnak, as good as met (dead) and to sit shiva for over their supposed (Crypto) conversion to Slovakian Byzantine Catholicism. When Great-Grandma did what she did, she left the perception for Vilmosz et. al. that Jesus really did hate Jews and would even have his Jewish followers deliver Jews into the hands of the Pogroms, Crusaders, and now the Nazis.



I don't disparage mistakes as much as I do the unrepentant attitude toward them and the justification toward them. And how are we as Jews, as Rusnaks, as Christians going to be believed that one can be as Jewish as the Kosice and Zlata Idka Rusnaks were and believe in Jesus? That's a question that we as Jews and as a family have to look at-- we can't be preaching the Gospel while being remiss about a most UnJewish and UnChristian thing that was done within and to our family.



Besides, we don't know if Great-Grandma's uncle Stephen really was still alive in 1947 as Great-Great-Granddad's obit claims. He may have died in the Holocaust, too; and then how can we blame when fellow Jews scoff and won't believe the Gospel because of Jews like Great-Grandma, who betrayed her own to the Nazis' will?



In a message dated 7/15/2011 9:58:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [a cousin] writes:

Hi Nicole,



I do admire your desire to research the family history. That is terrific. And I believe that each person deserves his or her own opinion.



That being said, I have 2 thoughts to share with you:



1. We did not live in such times and I feel strongly that if you have not walked a mile in someone's shoes, then you should not judge that person. Actually, that is my golden role; I am not perfect so I do not feel I have the right to judge anyone. Please give this careful thought.

2. I adore Grandma, her legacy and the family - and I politely request that you do not send me any further correspondence that speaks disparagingly of them.



Thank you,

[A cousin to whom I had to explain that I owe no apology to Great Grandma for standing up for at least the memories of Vilmosz, Dudus, Pepi, et. al.]





On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 7:00 PM, [I]wrote:



Remember that it was the Foskos and Hanzoks who go back to Diosgyor? Also, parish records do follow; and especially in those times for such a significant move, they or copies of them would have. Remember as I said, the parish records would've proved that we weren't Jews if they went with us from Diosgyor. There were no records until 1776, in more-Philosemitic Zlata Idka.



PS Andrew Rusnak claimed that he was born in Zlata. You found the connection to Kosice with Jakub and Maria (around or after the Yad Vashem records for Vilmosz et. al. were discovered by me. I still say that Great-Grandma Gaydos acted traitorous. Given that they viewed her and her dad and siblings as meshudim and sat shiva for him and his parents, no way did they have to ask her for help-- and she only served to turn them further away from considering Jesus as Messiah.



(Meanwhile, "money" en meir tuchus- I wish that Grandaunt Mary Ann, Grandma, et. al. would admit what Great-Grandma really stopped writing for. She and Grandma were 12 and 7 at the time-- about May 17, 1944 when the Rusnaks and Szymon Nowak (Shimon Novak) were murdered; and 10 and 5 or 6 when Iwan Rusnak was murdered. As for the others, we were much younger or not even born yet-- we couldn't have done bupkis. Yet to excuse Great-Grandma's behavior-- or at least hide it-- is entirely wrong, especially when other Jews have married into the family-- the Feldmans and Lavins, for example (and "Lavin" is a form of "Levy" or "Levi"-- "Levite")).

[PS Ally Shumack seems to hate that fact. But I don't mind that Fred McMahon's wife is a Levite. In fact, I kind of envy that-- as far as I know-- I'm a plain old Yehudi'ah-- not a Levi'ah or a koheinah.]

In a message... [Kevin] writes

Parish records don't follow one from place to place. Parish records eventually become genealogical dead-ends because these records don't list the town and place of worship for a child's parents. My baptismal record does not show where my mom and dad were born. But my birth certificate does.



Was Andrew Rusnak born in Zlata or in Diosgyor?



I'm on vacation now but will be happy to look more into this when I get home. Can you send me a copy of Andrew's nat papers and death cert? I don't have them.



Kevin ...

[Weirdly enough, Kevin gave me copies of quite a few of the documents that he was able to get copies of himself. And he brought up the 1776 date. Besides, a Hebrew woman with children-- who did ask Julia Fosko to pair up with her as a traveling partner on the Fredrich der Grosse(?)-- would not have asked Julia to do that were she a gentile girl. Jews and gentiles, especially Jewish women with children and single gentiles who were indeed at risk for being victims of unscrupulous men, did not trust each other back then. No sane Hebrew would've trusted that any unscrupulous man would not use any gentile to get to her and her children.]

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From: [Me. By the way, I told that I'm not a complete dummy. I've done my research.]

Subject: Re: By the Way....





As far back as 1776, around the 1787 Hungarian deadline for Jews to take surnames. Also, read again-- "if we were Catholic in Diosgyor, that would've followed us to Zlata Idka. It didn't. You even said that no parish records exist until Zlata Idka, and parish records surely would've followed us because- were we gentile- surely we and/or Diosgyor would've wanted the parish records to follow us to distinguish us from Jews."



We are Jews; those Rusnaks were relatives; and we don't need to convert back to Non-Messianic Judaism-- I by no means indicate falling away or reversion, lest we do exactly what Hebrews 6:4-6 warns against.

[I told you that I don't advocate apostasy. Besides, as someone on the Jews for Jesus forums noted, Talmud Bavli is a "wicked book".]

In a message..[Kevin] writes:

The Zlata Idka parish records show Catholic Rusnaks, Foskos and Hanzoks as far back as 1776. The Rusnaks who died in the Holocaust could have been relatives, but we don't know. Your mom has a Shaw in her line, but separated by probably 10 generations from Jen.

[Appealing to Mom's and Jen's possible connection doesn't help any. Besides, Dad and Vilmosz, and my cousin Greg and Vilmosz's brother David "Dudus" clearly look like cousins.]




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From: "Nicole C." [And if you keep reading, you'll see that I know and have learned history quite well, even if I'm not the brightest bulb in the bunch-- and I have to find some Yidish or Hebrew expression to use in place of the "brightest bulb" one. By the way, "Yidish" is an acceptable variation of "Yiddish".]

Subject: Re: By the Way....





As I said, look up Yad Vashem. I can give you various names (and you've seen them for the Rusnaks!). Besides, if we were Catholic in Diosgyor, that would've followed us to Zlata Idka. It didn't. You even said that no parish records exist until Zlata Idka, and parish records surely would've followed us because- were we gentile- surely we and/or Diosgyor would've wanted the parish records to follow us to distinguish us from Jews.



Besides, Foskos and Hanzoks- and Hanzoks and Foskos- have married each other for generations! Have you seen Numbers 36? Besides, no gentile Fosko would've married a Jewish Rusnak!











-----Original Message-----

From: [Kevin, that cousin about whom I was talking]

Subject: Re: By the Way....





So where are your sources and evidence? Your great-grandma kept correspondence with them until after WWII. Since I don't have, and haven't found any evidence to support your Jewish theory, leave me out of this.



Kevin...



[I honestly do think that Kevin is afraid of being a Jew, and thinks that-- no matter how often I've explained that I'm not advocating apostasy (a return to Non-Messianic Judaism)-- I'm advocating apostasy.]



From: "Nicole C."





Also, not that you might care (I'm not being offensive; just blunt); but we need to get rid of the non-kosher stuff, since (by eating non-kosher, or treif, stuff), we (even inadvertently) dishonor the memory of our relatives lost in the Holocaust (Ask Grandaunt Mary Ann and Kevin Fosko. If you still don't believe me, look up "Rusnak" and "Rusznak" in Kosice and Aranyidka (Zlata Idka) on Yad Vashem's website. This will also explain the business about the relatives writing to Mary Gaydos Rusnak for money- not so much money as help to make aliyah so as to not perish! How Great-Grandma wronged them!).

[I'm actually adding and censoring things in a down-and-up order myself. And besides Great-Granduncle Andy's and Great-Grandaunt Aggie (zichronah l'brakha)'s Alzheimers-- among other health problems that eating treif has caused and/or aggravated in the Rusnak Family--, bringing dishonor upon the memory of Vilmosz Rusnak and his side of the family-- upon bringing further dishonor upon ourselves-- has been an effect of our eating treif.]

-----Original Message-----

From: Nicole C. [Censored. If you think that I've been a total jerk; the fact that I'm censoring plenty of stuff that I might otherwise not should prove that I have some moral, legal, and other conscience.].

Subject: Re: Rusnak Family Medical History





Janet;



If this helps any, OCD/Anxiety comes from the Foskos (I found this out upon my own diagnosis and finding out that a certain Fosko has Anxiety at least.). Also, my dad and granddad have Chron's; we all know that my granddad had Colon Cancer as well, and I have IBS.



Nicole Czarnecki











-----Original Message-----

[Censored].


Subject: Rusnak Family Medical History [Which Includes the Fosko-Rusnak OCD. Keep Reading]





Hello Rusnak Family,



I know there has been interest in the past few years to gather some family info on health history and have it available for everyone. Being blessed with so many medical professionals in the family, we are armed the right folks to lead us in this task. So....food for thought for next year (we'll want to talk about how we can best go about it this year)...I can create a tab and sheet in the directory for family medical history, so no one has the daunting task of researching family history while overwhelmed with a medical issue. I would love ideas and feedback on how we can best approach this objective.



In the meantime, please see [Censored]'s note below....thank you!

Hugs,

[Censored. PS At least for me, I call bull---- on the hugs, as I think that the certain relative whose name I censored would like to kill me.]



[Censored for privacy reasons. I'd also prefer to keep out of legal trouble.]

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2. Bernie Goldberg pointed out that Geraldo Rivera would feel differently if a border agent murdered a Mexican immigrant. In a reverse and real-life case, a Mexican immigrant murdered a 15-year-old girl as opposed to a border agent, but I wonder how Geraldo feels about that as well (and I hope that this explains the parallel which I was trying to draw).
3.  Southern Sudan and the Supreme Court pointlessly stood up to a part of the inevitable one-world government (cf. Daniel 7:23-28), but at least the Supreme Court stood up to an organization which the US could disband if Dani'el's prophecy weren't going to be fulfilled anyway (As for Sudan, that's another discussion.).