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Tuesday, June 11, 2013

I Learned The Hard Way: DO NOT TRUST NEHEMIAH GORDON ON ANYTHING!

Nehemiah is a deceiver and abuser! In fact, I had the unfortunate chance of encountering his verbal abuse. Watch how he twists my words here:

  • Tonya Travis Rabbi Rashi (1040-1105 A.D.) wrote: “Behold the almah shall conceive and bare a son and shall call his name Immanuel. This means that our Creator shall be with us. And this is the sign: the one who will conceive is a girl (Naarah), who never in her lif...See More
  • Nehemia Gordon Hi Tonya Travis, If you are going to quote Rashi, you should bring the whole context. Earlier in the passage Rashi comments: "The maiden (almah) - My [=Isaiah's] wife will become pregnant this year, which was the 4th year of Ahaz." The Greek says parth...See More

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  • Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki I do recall Rashi being Anti Messianic myself.
  • Nehemia Gordon Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki, I requested carrying out this discussion without the usual Christian rhetoric. Calling a Jewish rabbi "anti-Christ" is extremely offensive. This was the slogan that was shouted at Jews for centuries as they were butchered in...See More
  • Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki I said Anti Messianic, not Anti Christ or Anti Messiah.
  • Nehemia Gordon Are you saying Rashi was opposed to Messianic Jews? In his day the Messianic Jews, if they existed, had far more to fear from the Roman Catholic Church they did from the rabbis. Being a Jew was bad enough. Being a Judaizing Christian was an invitation for torture.
  • Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki Yes. "Anti Messianic" is equivalent to "Anti Missionary". Remember that especially in those days, Messianic Jews were considered traitors for joining the Catholic Church, which told them to drop all and any Jewish roots and practices at the door. So (as Messianic Jews do today), they still get a hard time from both sides.
  • Nehemia Gordon That's the broadest definition of "Messianic Jew" I've ever heard. A Jew who converts to Catholicism is a "Messianic Jew"? Is that your position?
  • Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki A Messianic Jew is simply a Jewish Christian, and Catholicism was (and is still) considered Christianity. I'm pretty offended that my words were taken out of context, by the way--and you know that I've even spoken against proselytization (incuding or forcing conversion).
  • Nehemia Gordon I would like to hear from some Messianic Jews on this page if they agree that "a Messianic Jew is simply a Jewish Christian" and if a Jew who converts to Catholicism is considered a Messianic Jew.
  • Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki You heard from me.


First of all, I never said Anti Messiah or Anti Christ. Secondly, I am a Messianic Jew. Thirdly, while some Messianic Jews were and are Roman Vaticanists, many Messianic Jews recognized and recognize not Roman Vaticanist and know that Roman Vaticanism is a cult--plainly and simply! I could go on, but you get the point!

If you ever want to defend someone, don't defend Nehemia Gordon--he will twist your defense of his arguments (e.g., that Rashi was not talking about Jesus and was actually--like all really-devout P'rushiyin are--Anti Messianic and don't believe Yeshua to have been the Messiah at all!) into something that you never even said!

By the way, I think that I now know why he and his fiancee broke up--I myself wouldn't want to be married to a verbal abuser who twists my defenses of or additions to his arguments into attacks that were never made, and implies that I'm not something that I actually am, for example (Since Nehemia treated me as he treated me, I can imagine how he treated her!) ! Also, if you're in a verbally-abusive relationship--friendship or otherwise--, hightail it as soon as you realize that you are in such a relationship!

By the way, I unfriended you, unliked your page, and am no longer following you on Twitter, Nehemia! What a shame that Isaiah 29:13 applies to you, and all the proof that one needs to see that Isaiah 29:13 applies to you is to ask themselves and answer for themselves this question: Can verbal abusers really worship Yehovah? After all, for instance, "[t]hou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour." Unredeemed men abuse people; men of Yehovah don't.

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