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Showing posts with label Khazaria. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Khazaria. Show all posts

Friday, March 30, 2012

Repost: DNA Haplotype Groups, Jews, and Khazars

According to Khazaria.com:




  • The main ethnic element of Ashkenazim (German and Eastern European Jews), Sephardim (Spanish and Portuguese Jews), Mizrakhim (Middle Eastern Jews), Juhurim (Mountain Jews of the Caucasus), Italqim (Italian Jews), and most other modern Jewish populations of the world is Israelite. The Israelite haplotypes fall into Y-DNA haplogroups J and E.
  • Ashkenazim also descend, in a smaller way, from European peoples from the northern Mediterranean region and even less from Slavs and Khazars. The non-Israelite Y-DNA haplogroups include Q (typically Central Asian) and R1a1 (typically Eastern European but the Ashkenazic variant comes from somewhere in Asia, probably Central Asia).






  • According to Family Tree DNA:

    • E3aHaplogroup E3a is an Africa lineage. It is currently hypothesized that this haplogroup dispersed south from northern Africa within the last 3,000 years, by the Bantu agricultural expansion. E3a is also the most common lineage among African Americans
    • E3bThis haplogroup is believed to have evolved in the Middle East. It expanded into the Mediterranean during the Pleistocene Neolithic expansion. It is currently distributed around the Mediterranean, southern Europe, and in north and east Africa.
    • E1 and E2
      E1a and E2 are found almost exclusively in Africa, and only E1b1b is observed in significant frequencies in Europe and western Asia in addition to Africa. Most Sub-Saharan Africans belong to subclades of E other than E1b1b, while most non-Africans who belong to haplogroup E belong to its E1b1b subclade.
      • E1b1bThis is at once the most common Y haplogroup among Ethiopians, Somalis, Eritreans and North African Berbers and Arabs, is the third most common haplogroup in Europe. It is also common in the Near East, from where it spread into the Balkans and the rest of Europe.  Eb1b1 clusters are seen today in Western Europe, Southeast Europe, the Near East, Northeast Africa and Northwest Africa.
        JHaplogroup J is found at highest frequencies in Middle Eastern and north African populations where it most likely evolved. This marker has been carried by Middle Eastern traders into Europe, central Asia, India, and Pakistan. The Cohen modal lineage is found in Haplogroup J.
        • J1
          Haplogroup J is found at highest frequencies in Middle Eastern and north African populations where it most likely evolved. This marker has been carried by Middle Eastern traders into Europe, central Asia, India, and Pakistan. The Cohen modal lineage is found in Haplogroup J*.
        • J2This lineage originated in the Northern portion of the Fertile Crescent where it later spread throughout central Asia, the Mediterranean and South into India. As with other populations with Mediterranean ancestry this lineage is found within the Jewish populations.

    Thursday, February 23, 2012

    So Did the Fockos Actually Emigrate From Poland? And Even From Khazaria All the Way Back From Germany?

    As I told Kevin, we could've been part of the Great Jewish Migration to Khazaria per the baron named Focko.  By the way, I seriously don't think that Kevin would care if I publish the two conversations, since I started them and looked at the JewishGen records myself:


    We need to figure out exactly how the Polish Fockos (Foczkos) are connected. But as far as I can tell, they broke off to Poland and considered us (since we were Anusim) defectors who could stay in Aranyida (since we were meshumadim and, in their eyes, koferim) for all they cared.
     ·  · See Friendship · 14 hours ago near Baltimore · 

      • Kevin Fosko When do you think they migrated? If we find Jewish Focko/Foczkos in Kassa they could be related. The Hungarian Census of landowners of 1715 lists one Rusnyak and no Focko/Foczkos. But others who did not own land would not have been counted.
        6 hours ago · 

      • Nicole Czarnecki Or perhaps they emigrated from Poland. Maybe they got kicked out and moved south after converting, and the Diosgyor thing is due to the Hanzoks. Then again, a Fosko did end up in Hungary, so that the Jewish (that is, the Non-Anusi-- non-convert) Fockso moved to Poland to retain Judaism probably holds.
        14 minutes ago via  · 

      • Nicole Czarnecki And the land thing's a point taken, too. You know, as I said, the Slovakian Fockos may've been kicked out of Poland for converting; but they could've been part of the migration when Khazaria fell, too. Maybe they were Jews who came from Germany into Khazaria (since there was a German baron named Focko, according to Wikipedia, and not much is known of him), and then came to Poland with those fleeing to Khazaria.
        10 minutes ago via  ·