Another Petition Against Nehemia Gordon (To Which The Title Link Leads)

1. First of all, Nehemia Gordon violates the tenets of real Karaism. For example:


1. "Karaites consider traditional Christianity (any form of Christianity which holds that Jesus / Yehoshua has divine or semi-divine status) to be outright idol worship, in that it raises one of Elohim's creations to the level of creator, either in part or in full. Incidentally, this is precisely the view that Islam holds towards Christianity."
2. Since Karaism holds that "traditional Christianity...[is] outright idol worship", Karaites are to "not consent unto [the Christian, whether Jewish or gentile], nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him;  but thou shalt surely kill him; thy hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to draw thee away from the LORD thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is in the midst of thee. " 
2. Secondly, as previous petitioners wrote, "That rabbis have good things to say about A Prayer to Our Father is a moot point. That pastors have good things to say about the book is moot as well." Nehemia is profiting off of Tanakh and violations of Deuteronomy 13:9-12. "Ye shall not make with Me--gods of silver, or gods of gold, ye shall not make unto you." (Exodus 20:19)
3. Thirdly, Nehemia is verbally abusive. Real Karaites do not verbally abuse people.

Again, Nehemia is nothing more than an abusive hypocrite and opportunist. 

Petition Against Nehemia Gordon From A Group Of Non-Messianic Karaites That Even Messianics Should Sign

 I advise everyone to sign the PetitionOnline petition against Nehemia Gordon. According to what Nehemia claims is his interpretation of Scripture, he should "shalt surely kill [a Messianic Jew like me]; thy hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to draw thee away from the LORD thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. " (Deuteronomy 13:10-11, JPS)

So, Nehemia is not even being consistent towards what he claims is his own interpretation of Scripture--the Karaite one. He is instead deceitfully working in church settings, etc. to attempt to turn people away from Yeshua--thus, he's using (if you will) an Anti-Messianic equivalent of the Mohammedan taqiyya. This is not a Karaite principle in any way, shape, form, manner, circumstance, or fashion.

By the way, see "The Hebrew Yeshua vs. the Greek Jesus". Nehemia is grossly inconsistent, for example. He tells people not to use Jewish tradition that is not in the Tanakh, yet he said "Kaddish" (which is not in Scripture) when his dad died and answered "No, not according to Jewish tradition" when I asked if I could name a pet after a deceased relative.

Also, remember that Nehemia verbally abused me, and he has no problem hurting others. As the petition reads,  Nehemia "is doing more harm than good. We don't care about how your works are received by pastors, rabbis and Christians. We don't care about 'fantastic reviews.' We take no stock in them. Their comments are meaningless to us. Our eyes are on you and the effects your actions are having." Nehemia is nothing more than an abusive hypocrite and opportunist. 

Update On the Situation With Nehemia: Again, My Warning About Him Stands

I later got a very-manipulative private message from Nehemia. I will not publish the contents of that message, since the evidence here is enough. I will say that I get that hurt people hurt people (as I myself have sadly done several times), but having been hurt doesn't excuse or sanctify hurting others.

Let me also say this: someone gave Nehemia the benefit of the doubt and said that he was using the mentality of a third grader! I wish that, that were true; but that's sadly what verbal abusers want especially their victims to think. "Oh, he's just being childish, having a hard time getting his thoughts together, and unable to cope with the situation as he sees it." It's more of the act of a verbal abuser. Most kids have no clue of how abuse and hurtful certain actions can be. Adults do, and they can use those actions to try to discomfort, manipulate, and control people. Most kids are just trying to feel secure and make sense of matters. Adults, on the other hand, are trying to make others feel insecure and senseless.

MK Michael Ben-Ari: A Reflection of Anti Messianics On the Israeli Far Right (And On Any Side of the Political Spectrum In Even the Diaspora, Really)

First of all, how can a girl who is blind even call the police if she's not allowed to have Braille literature? Yad L'Achim wouldn't let her have a Braille-keypad phone to call the police--some of whom probably work with Yad L'Achim. Secondly, Michael ben-Ari is no real theologian or historian, or he would know that Tanakh speaks of a New Covenant, dam is what makes kippur-l'hanefesh, G-d is the only Mashiach/Moshiach (Redeemer/Savior), and Yeshua was a Tanakh-observant Jew who shed His own blood for His people.

So, we can already see hear that Anti Messianics are especially "without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools,  and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things."

I Learned The Hard Way: DO NOT TRUST NEHEMIAH GORDON ON ANYTHING!

Nehemiah is a deceiver and abuser! In fact, I had the unfortunate chance of encountering his verbal abuse. Watch how he twists my words here:

• Tonya Travis Rabbi Rashi (1040-1105 A.D.) wrote: “Behold the almah shall conceive and bare a son and shall call his name Immanuel. This means that our Creator shall be with us. And this is the sign: the one who will conceive is a girl (Naarah), who never in her lif...See More

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  Nehemia Gordon Hi Tonya Travis, If you are going to quote Rashi, you should bring the whole context. Earlier in the passage Rashi comments: "The maiden (almah) - My [=Isaiah's] wife will become pregnant this year, which was the 4th year of Ahaz." The Greek says parth...See More
  

  
  

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  Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki I do recall Rashi being Anti Messianic myself.

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  Nehemia Gordon Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki, I requested carrying out this discussion without the usual Christian rhetoric. Calling a Jewish rabbi "anti-Christ" is extremely offensive. This was the slogan that was shouted at Jews for centuries as they were butchered in...See More

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  Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki I said Anti Messianic, not Anti Christ or Anti Messiah.

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  Nehemia Gordon Are you saying Rashi was opposed to Messianic Jews? In his day the Messianic Jews, if they existed, had far more to fear from the Roman Catholic Church they did from the rabbis. Being a Jew was bad enough. Being a Judaizing Christian was an invitation for torture.

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  Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki Yes. "Anti Messianic" is equivalent to "Anti Missionary". Remember that especially in those days, Messianic Jews were considered traitors for joining the Catholic Church, which told them to drop all and any Jewish roots and practices at the door. So (as Messianic Jews do today), they still get a hard time from both sides.

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  Nehemia Gordon That's the broadest definition of "Messianic Jew" I've ever heard. A Jew who converts to Catholicism is a "Messianic Jew"? Is that your position?

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  Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki A Messianic Jew is simply a Jewish Christian, and Catholicism was (and is still) considered Christianity. I'm pretty offended that my words were taken out of context, by the way--and you know that I've even spoken against proselytization (incuding or forcing conversion).

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  Nehemia Gordon I would like to hear from some Messianic Jews on this page if they agree that "a Messianic Jew is simply a Jewish Christian" and if a Jew who converts to Catholicism is considered a Messianic Jew.

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  Nicole Maratovah Czarnecki You heard from me.

First of all, I never said Anti Messiah or Anti Christ. Secondly, I am a Messianic Jew. Thirdly, while some Messianic Jews were and are Roman Vaticanists, many Messianic Jews recognized and recognize not Roman Vaticanist and know that Roman Vaticanism is a cult--plainly and simply! I could go on, but you get the point!

If you ever want to defend someone, don't defend Nehemia Gordon--he will twist your defense of his arguments (e.g., that Rashi was not talking about Jesus and was actually--like all really-devout P'rushiyin are--Anti Messianic and don't believe Yeshua to have been the Messiah at all!) into something that you never even said!

By the way, I think that I now know why he and his fiancee broke up--I myself wouldn't want to be married to a verbal abuser who twists my defenses of or additions to his arguments into attacks that were never made, and implies that I'm not something that I actually am, for example (Since Nehemia treated me as he treated me, I can imagine how he treated her!) ! Also, if you're in a verbally-abusive relationship--friendship or otherwise--, hightail it as soon as you realize that you are in such a relationship!

By the way, I unfriended you, unliked your page, and am no longer following you on Twitter, Nehemia! What a shame that Isaiah 29:13 applies to you, and all the proof that one needs to see that Isaiah 29:13 applies to you is to ask themselves and answer for themselves this question: Can verbal abusers really worship Yehovah? After all, for instance, "[t]hou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour." Unredeemed men abuse people; men of Yehovah don't.

An Epiphany That Occurred To Me Only After My Last Blog Entry...

With All Due Respect To Survivors Of Suicide (Even Myself, You Have To Remember)...

I had to laugh in my head when someone talked about losing her friend to the "dark tunnel of suicide"--she, like others, talks about how suicide is "difficult" for the survivors. Survivors of suicide like her (even if they don't say it) also think about how suicide is selfish, etc..

Well, firstly, the "dark tunnel of suicide" wasn't that dark for him--he committed suicide! Besides, secondly, like he probably thought, I'm thinking more and more that I agree with the sentiments (and I've--when I've Googled "Why shouldn't I commit suicide?", for example--seen and/or picked up the sentiments) that:

1. Suicide may not be that damned selfish after all.
2. The survivors may be being the ones who are selfish--who are they really crying for, after all? (By the way, Wayman Tisdale did not commit suicide, but you get the point.)
3. Since people are complaining about population control, it wouldn't (or at least shouldn't) kill you (pun intended) if we kill ourselves, anyway. After all, you sure don't feel--or at least act like you feel--that losing us would kill you while we're still alive--or at least most of the time, you don't. In fact, you usually act quite the opposite way while we're alive--that is, that you'd even want to see us gone and are just too tactically polite to say that. Even, for instance, while the one person talked about how her loved one "was close to me and all his friends and family" and was a "great friend", the loved one sure didn't feel like he was--or why else would he have committed suicide? Or maybe he felt like he was on his end but not on his loved ones' ends--after all, why didn't he stick around if he truly felt like he was loved by his loved ones.
4. Since you don't care for or even want us around while we're around and alive, that we'd be no longer around or alive would be better for all parties. Besides, you can really put your sentiments behind your "I miss you when you're not around" and "I'll always love you" words when we're really not around.
5. Suicidal people and suicide committers may, in some senses, be ahead of their time. For example, my great-granddad committed suicide on the day that Mario Savio spoke and helped usher in Jacob's Trouble--and he had seen enough of Jacob's Trouble on the horizon in his day. By the way, in case anyone's asking, I did tweet that I gained a whole new respect for Great Granddad for that in a perhaps-perverse since.
6. Since, again, you don't care for or even want us around while we're around and alive, that we'd be no longer around or alive would be better for all parties. After all, if and/or since we're really that much trouble to you while we're alive and around, we'd be putting an end to both our and your miseries if we decided to commit suicide. Also, again, that'd solve your population-control issue.
7. Since we may be well ahead of our time and you don't want us around, quit your (for a lack of a better term and with all due respect) bitching--we're perhaps even escaping to Heaven. Even if we're not, we were predestined for Hell (where you at least surely acted like you wanted us, anyway). Regardless, we'd be cutting our days short--perhaps to your satisfaction, as you made it seem half of the time.
8. The only reason that we don't commit suicide is because we're too damned in dread of what would happen if we did commit suicide or--worsely--if we actually survived a suicide attempt and had dreadful consequences associated with our failed suicide attempts and survivals thereof (or therefrom--whichever; you get the point). 

So, give suicide commiters and those of us who've been suicidal--for good reason--a break. You didn't seem to care for your suicide-victim loved one when he or she was still here--or else he or she would still be here, because he or she would know that he or she had a friend who's even a sibling or even close than one. You don't seem to care for us now--in fact, you're sending us the same messages that you sent your suicide-victim loved.

And that's why I laughed--not because I thought that his suicide was funny, but because I thought that (as he must've thought or would think) she's a damned hypocrite for saying what she should've said and meant while he was alive. Had she truly meant all that she said now that he's been gone for two years, he would've never gone through that suicide attempt--even Jeremiah stayed alive because he had Baruch and Hanamel, and Elijah had 6,999 others .

So, with all due respect to survivors of suicide (including those who've been suicidal like I have), give suicide victims and those who've been suicidal (including yourselves if you've been suicidal) a break! At least if you give us a break, we'll stay around to at least make you selfish brats and hypocrites happy--even if you really don't care for us, and at least to prove that we're not selfish like you--nor would we actually be selfish if we decide to take ourselves out of your lives!