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Monday, August 12, 2013

I Know What Anti Messianics and Self-Hating Jews Want--And It's Not Pretty!

Here's an example from "Slippery Sack"--who, if he is even a real Jew himself, surely doesn't act like one, anyway (Having treif pictures on your YouTube channel does not indicate taking your Jewishness seriously, for example.):

  • Slippery Sack 
    Nicole, You may not be Jewish at all, your family tree seems unconvincing, I am a real Jew, for example my family tree can be traced back to Abraham in an unbroken chain. Nicole it's OK if you are a Goyim. You seem to be trying to hard to be Jewish and quite frankly I'm not convinced.
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  • Nicole Czarnecki 
    Not every Jew--especially many bnei-Anusim--have the luxury that you have. In fact, out of all people, Tracey R. Rich states that "So we see that Jewish genealogy is not as impossible as we might think. But it's not easy either. You are not likely to simply log onto Ancestry (or even JewishGen) and find a comprehensive tree listing your family back 300 years, as some gentiles do." She'd love for bnei-Anusim and Messianics like me to not identify as Jews.
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  • Nicole Czarnecki 
    Also, see "Claim: All Jewish genealogical records lost in 70CE". And we know that after the Galut b'Bavel ended, some could not trace their genealogy. "These sought their register, that is, the genealogy, but it was not found; therefore were they deemed polluted and put from the priesthood. 63 And the Tirshatha said unto them, that they should not eat of the most holy things, till there stood up a priest with Urim and with Thummim." (Ezra 2:62-63, cf. Nehemiah 7:64-65).
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  • Nicole Czarnecki 
    Also, not every genealogy of everyone is listed in Tanakh or Brit Chadashah. Therefore, your logic would assume that they didn't even exist, let alone be Jewish if they were Jews. Besides, many Messianic Jews took "But avoid foolish disputes, genealogies..." (Titus 3:9) out of context. After all, Yeshua had His genealogy recorded. Paul noted being a Binyamini. The context is in line with "For when one says, “I am of Paul,” and another, “I am of Apollos,” are you not carnal?" (1 Corinthians 3:4)
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  • Nicole Czarnecki 
    As John Gill commented, "and genealogies; of their elders, Rabbins, and doctors, by whom their traditions are handed down from one to another, in fixing which they greatly laboured; see ( 1 Timothy 1:4 )". Do we not see that now? e.g., "I am of Calvin--that is, a Calvinist." "I am a Lutheran." But what does Scripture say? "Be... of one mind...." (See 2 Corinthians 13:11) G-d doesn't contradict or change. Messianics, too, will have to consult our genealogies when the Beit HaMikdash is rebuilt.
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I even emphasized what Anti Messianics and Self-Hating Jews want, in case you did not feel like reading carefully and thinking for yourself. 

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