The Jewish "Race" or Ethnos: Are We White or Olive?

While the debate continues, let's be very clear about whether Jews are White

David_18:

The current U.S. Census definition includes white "people having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East or North Africa. So even if your skin got olive color you're still "white".

Actually, we're Olive. There are six "races"/macro-ethnic groups: the White (European), Black (African), Yellow (Asian/"Oriental"), Brown (e.g., Mexica, Taino), Red (as in Native North American; not the general "אדום", which אום was ), and Olive (e.g., Israelite/Jewish, Ishmaelite-Edomite/Arab, Iberian) "races". Many of us are products of inter-"racial"/interethnic unions, and we're nonetheless Olive-even if, e.g., we look White because of some Slav who converted to Judaism or because our gene pool microevolved to make us look White.

Here's what an יהודי קדמון looked like, by the way:

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2009/01/researcher-reconstructs-ancient-jewish-faces.html

And let's be very clear: the man looks like Wolf Blitzer sans glasses or Billy Joel.

Maczkovecz...Definitely Jewish; Just Trying To Break It Down

"Maczko":

from maka ‘flour’ [See "Monk"], presumably a metonymic occupational name for a miller or a nickname for someone with a very pale complexion.nickname from a diminutive of mak ‘poppy’.

"Macko":

Macko Name Meaning

Polish (Macko), Ukrainian, and Slovak: from a pet form of Polish Maciej, Slovak Matej, or some other Slavic form of Matthew.

"Mattityahu" (מתתיהו) is originally Hebrew.

So, the Maczkoveczes (Mackovecs, etc.) were either "Millersons" or "Matthewsons"—basically, "of Matthew" or "bnei-Mattityahu" (בני מתתיהו). "Vec" or "vecz" ("vec" Magyarized or Polonized) means:

vec-noun
	thing	model, predmet, detail, maličkosť, záležitosť, vec
	affair	aféra, záležitosť, vec
	matter	záležitosť, vec, veci, predmet, hmota, obsah
	issue	dôsledok, otázka, predmet sporu, sporný bod, sporná otázka, vec
	cause	príčina, dôvod, vec, súdny spor
	business	obchod, priemysel, podnikanie, povinnosť, zamestnanie, vec
	job	zadanie, pracovisko, ťažká práca, zamestnanie, robota, vec
	item	položka, poznámka, bod, vec, jednotka, článok
	object	predmet, vec, objekt, cieľ, zámer, účel
	question	otázka, vec, problém, pochybnosť
	concern	vec, záležitosť, záujem, znepokojenie, koncern, firma
	care	starostlivosť, starosť, opatrnosť, dohľad, pozornosť, vec
	article	predmet, tovar, vec, kus, článok, bod
	piece	kus, kúsok, časť, diel, vec, jeden
	entity	vec, objekt, celok, bytie, teleso, podstata
	gizmo	vec, vynález, vymoženosť
vec-preposition
	re	vec, vo veci

So, basically, we're—unless we're "Millersons"—sons of Matthew or "things of Matthew" (Nice! In all seriousness, Jews didn't always get desirable names.). I don't know whether this Matthew was one in the Diaspora or even מתתיהו התלמיד himself (if מתתיהו התלמיד had any children, and any children that stayed in or reverted to Non-Messianic Judaism. On the other hand, they could have been children who were Messianic and became part of the lost tribes and/or completely assimilated and absorbed, since I know of no Messianic lines that have been fully Messianic since the time of התלמידים ושליחים.). He could've even been מתתיהו המכבי, but this is doubtful.

By the way, I had to play around with Google Translate, take Hebrew 101, etc. to get the Hebrew. I am not translating this for you; so, look it up and/or otherwise learn it for yourself—to do so is the best way to learn it for yourself. I grant that some would say, "Well, didn't you have people teach you and otherwise help you learn?" כן, and I had to—עם עזרת וחן יהוה— be a willing תלמידה.

"[N]ickidewbear not [J]ewish"?

Okay; that's bullcrap. I am Jewish. I may not fit the P'rushi mold or the general Non-Messianic mold, but I'm Jewish. Given Patrilineal and Messianic Jews like me, that the Jewish community is considered increasingly few in number, being lost, etc. is no wonder—Jews like me, after all, aren't counted.

Also, some in the Jewish community love to cherrypick and consider apparent Non Jews to be Jewish when to do so is convenient for them. For example, Michael Douglas and Josh Groban are considered Jewish; and Michael Douglas has a gentile mother, and Josh Groban is a Messianic and mostly-Patrilineal Jew.

So, again, I am Jewish, even though I don't fit the P'rushi or general Non-Messianic molds. As a friend of mine stated (and she's a Reform Jew and an Ashkenazi Levite), nobody should ever tell anyone that he or she is not Jewish. As someone else out it, as I recall, people tell people that they're not Jewish and then wonder why the intermarriage, Reform, and Messianic rates are increasing (and not that I myself will give up Yeshua if the whole of the Jewish community decides to consider me Jewish—in fact, Christianity is Essenism; and Essenism is a Jewish sect, as is Lubavitch Judaism—although I disagree with the Lubavitchim about whom HaRebbe HaMoshiach is. In addition, I am disappointed when bnei v'banot Anusim give up Yeshua when they find out who they are—they give up a Jewish man as their Messiah because they found out that they are Jewish and for whom the Jewish Messiah came first? Where's the sekel in that?).

In conclusion, give me a break and don't tell me that I am not Jewish!

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