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Monday, April 4, 2022

As Promised: The Not-Diverse and -Inclusive NYC Government

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PS Look for a blog entry regarding emails and a request for just a quick look pertaining to records of any kind on a long-deceased relative (unless she’s still alive at about 137, which is doubtful)… <a href="https://t.co/Rnb8CekjXn">https://t.co/Rnb8CekjXn</a></p>&mdash; Nitzkiah b’ Avigdor Czarnecki ✡️✝️🇺🇸🇮🇱 (@Nickidewbear) <a href="https://twitter.com/Nickidewbear/status/1511100115326537747?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


The email chain, in reverse chronological order: 


Family History (Records)
Apr 1 at 11:58 AM
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Hello,

Unfortunately, as previously stated, we cannot perform a search for any of our vital records without an order for a search for these records first being placed.

Sincerely,

The Municipal Archives Staff 


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From: nickidewbear@aol.com <nickidewbear@aol.com>
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 11:11 AM
To: Family History (Records) <familyhistory@records.nyc.gov>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: City of New York - Correspondence #1-1-6850954 Contact Form Submission
 
Hello, I am aware of all that, and that is precisely why I’m reaching out to the vital records department. If I could’ve found a record for myself, I would’ve told you.

On Friday, April 1, 2022, 08:24:52 AM EDT, Family History (Records) <familyhistory@records.nyc.gov> wrote:


Hello,

The order for the record includes the search that we would be performing to see if any record exists, and the results of that search whether it be a certificate or an official Not Found letter. Unfortunately, we cannot perform a search for a vital record without an order for this search first being placed. If you do not wish to order a search to see if any such records exist, the sites previously provided will allow you to perform your own search.

Sincerely,

The Municipal Archives Staff 


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From: nickidewbear@aol.com <nickidewbear@aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 6:57 PM
To: Family History (Records) <familyhistory@records.nyc.gov>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: City of New York - Correspondence #1-1-6850954 Contact Form Submission
 
Hello. As I have stated, I cannot place an order if I don’t even know if New York City has any records on Rochla (Rachel) Andrelewitz other than her Ellis Island manifest.  As I have also stated , I am a person with disabilities and all the way in Maryland. I can’t just drive up to New York City; and I have exhaustively searched for records on her for years—including through Steve Morse, Ancestry, etc. 

I wish that I could say that I am surprised that a city that apparently prides itself on diversity and inclusivity would be unwilling to help a person with disabilities. I am, however, I’m surprised that such a city would be unwilling to even check to see whether they have any kind of records on the aforementioned person—the same city to which she immigrated almost 115 years ago should be all the more willing to help her distant relative whom cannot drive up to New York City for herself to see if any records about her of any type exist. As it is, apparently so-called diverse and -inclusive New York City has not changed much in regards to the way it treats people with disabilities or is transparent about genealogical records even 115 years later.

Please correct my impression if I am wrong by simply providing information as to whether you have any kind of records on Rochla (Rachel) Andrelewitz—as aforementioned, her last known address was at 210 Lynch St., Apartment 3, Williamsburg, Brooklyn, New York. She was born in about 1885 with one of her parents listed as “Gitla Andrelewitz”; at Ellis Island. She arrived in New York in 1907. She lived with her aunt Sarah (née Katz) Goldberg Dennison and her cousin George Goldberg as of September 1907.

On Wednesday, March 30, 2022, 12:11:11 PM EDT, Family History (Records) <familyhistory@records.nyc.gov> wrote:


Hello,

Unfortunately, in order for us to help you with the search, you have to order this on our website and pay and we will help with the searches. If not you can use all these websites for alternative searches,www.ancestryinstitution.comwww.stevemorse.orgwww.germangenealogygroup.com, I believe they are free websites and some you need to create a log in.

Sincerely,

The Municipal Archives Staff 


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From: nickidewbear@aol.com <nickidewbear@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 10:19 PM
To: Family History (Records) <familyhistory@records.nyc.gov>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: City of New York - Correspondence #1-1-6850954 Contact Form Submission
 
How can I place an order if I don’t even know if New York City has any records on Rochla (Rachel) Andrelewitz? Besides, I am a person with disabilities and all the way in Maryland. I can’t just drive up to New York City. Also, as I said, I have exhaustively search for records on her for years; and all I’ve been able to find is at her last known address was in Williamsburg, Brooklyn with her aunt Sarah Dennison and her first cousin George Goldberg in September 1907.

On Monday, March 28, 2022, 09:05:43 AM EDT, Family History (Records) <familyhistory@records.nyc.gov> wrote:


Hello,

Unfortunately there is not much else we can do aside from pointing you in the directions to perform your own search. If you would like to make an appointment to come in person, someone will be able to assist you in how to use these sites to attempt to locate any record, but for us to perform a search an order first has to be placed.

Sincerely,

The Municipal Archives Staff 


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From: nickidewbear@aol.com <nickidewbear@aol.com>
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2022 10:09 PM
To: Family History (Records) <familyhistory@records.nyc.gov>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: City of New York - Correspondence #1-1-6850954 Contact Form Submission
 
The thing is that I’ve tried all of that, and I have not been able to find any information whatsoever. Also, due to my current financial situation, I am not able to afford extra searches for records.

On Friday, March 25, 2022, 07:24:19 AM EDT, Family History (Records) <familyhistory@records.nyc.gov> wrote:


Hello,

For our vital records, if you would like to place an order for searches of these records you may do so through our website at the following link: https://www1.nyc.gov/site/records/historical-records/order.page
Order Vital Records. Visit Historical Vital Records of NYC to search, browse, download or purchase certified copies of over 9 million birth, death and marriage records. Vital Records include birth records, death records, and marriage licenses and certificates. We provide certified copies of records via email or the USPS.
www1.nyc.gov
If you would like to perform your own search, many of our vital records are currently digitized and available to view on our Historical Vital Records site at the link below. The Search tab on that site also has links to other sites that contain searchable databases of our indexes of vital records.

I would also suggest looking at census records, they are available to search online and might provide some information that you are looking for: https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/New_York_Census
Starting in 1790, federal population schedules were taken every 10 years in the United States. Click here for more information about federal census records. New York State was the 11th state to join the Union on July 26, 1788. It was included in all of the federal censuses.
www.familysearch.org


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The Municipal Archives Staff 


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From: nickidewbear@aol.com <nickidewbear@aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 4:13 PM
To: Family History (Records) <familyhistory@records.nyc.gov>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: City of New York - Correspondence #1-1-6850954 Contact Form Submission
 
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Hello. As I stated, I am looking for any record pertaining to Rochla (Rachel) Andrelewitz in Williamsburg, Brooklyn. Her last known address was at 210 Lynch St., Apartment 3, Williamsburg, Brooklyn, New York. She was born in about 1885 with one of her parents listed as “Gitla Andrelewitz”; at Ellis Island. She arrived in New York in 1907.

She lived with her aunt Sarah (née Katz) Goldberg Dennison and her cousin George Goldberg as of September 1907.

Do you have any record—including marriage records and birth records with Rochla listed as the mother—pertaining to Rochla?

On Thursday, March 24, 2022, 07:44:10 AM EDT, Family History (Records) <familyhistory@records.nyc.gov> wrote:


Hello,

Thank you for reaching out to us! We carry NYC birth records through 1909, death records through 1948, and marriage records through 1949. Are you looking for one of these records?

Sincerely,

The Municipal Archives Staff 


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name: Nicole Czarnecki

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comment: I am looking for any record pertaining to Rochla (Rachel) Andrelewitz. Her last known address was at 210 Lynch St., Apartment 3, Williamsburg, Brooklyn, New York. She was born in about 1885 with one of her parents listed as &ldquo;Gitla Andrelewitz&rdquo; at Ellis Island. She arrived in New York in 1907.





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