Why Not Convert To Non-Messianic Judaism? Tanakh Itself Should Give You A Hint As To Why.

If I were you, I would not convert to Judaism. I come from a Jewish background (unbeknownst to me for years), and Yeshua did not have me find out until I was secure in the Messianic Jewish (Jewish Christian) faith (and Christianity is a Jewish sect that derived from Essenism, which is with what John the Baptist was affiliated).

In Judaism, you have to keep 613 laws. Concerning the Moabites, for example: "4 An Ammonite or a Moabite shall not enter into the assembly of the LORD; even to the tenth generation shall none of them enter into the assembly of the LORD for ever; 5 because they met you not with bread and with water in the way, when ye came forth out of Egypt; and because they hired against thee Balaam the son of Beor from Pethor of Aram-naharaim, to curse thee. 6 Nevertheless the LORD thy God would not hearken unto Balaam; but the LORD thy God turned the curse into a blessing unto thee, because the LORD thy God loved thee. 7 Thou shalt not seek their peace nor their prosperity all thy days for ever."

Yet there are other mitzvot, or laws, which state, "Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thy heart; thou shalt surely rebuke thy neighbour, and not bear sin because of him. Thou shalt not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD."

In light of those seemingly-contradictory mitzvot, the New Testament states the following (See Romans 7:4-25 for context.):

"13 Has then what is good become death to me? Certainly not! But sin, that it might appear sin, was producing death in me through what is good, so that sin through the commandment might become exceedingly sinful. 14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15 For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do. 16 If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good. 17 But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. 19 For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. 20 Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me."

The point is that we were willing to, in this case, hold a grudge against the Mo'avim and Amonim; and Yehovah knew that. That's why He gave us over to that sin.

Yet, if you convert to Judaism, you will have to follow logic like this:

"Whereas certain other nations are allowed to marry into Judaism (if they have converted) after a certain number of generations, when it comes to men from Amon and Mo’av descent, the Torah rules that no such people are ever allowed to marry Jews (23:4). Why are they given such harsh treatment? The pasuk (23:5) tells us that this ban is due to the fact that they hired Bilam to try and curse us, as well as the fact that they did not allow us to pass through their land to go to Eretz Yisrael; they did not greet us with food and drink. But why does this mean that they get harsher treatment than the Egyptians, for example, who can join our ranks after three generations? The Ramban (23:5) explains that these two nations (Amon and Mo’av) were expected to act kindly to us. For generations ago Avraham Avinu saved Lot (the father of both these nations) from captivity, and as such these two nations should have been grateful to us and should have aided us. But since they spurned Avraham’s kindness and exhibited a lack of gratitude, they showed themselves unworthy of joining the Jewish ranks - for a Jew’s life revolves around gratitude. The first word of the day we say is thanks (modeh), and the word yehudim comes from the word hoda’ah, which means to thank. Indeed, such is the centrality of this trait of gratitude, that the reason the Torah gives for eventually allowing Egyptians to join the Jewish fold is because (23:8) we were hosted in their land. Yes, they treated us harshly for two centuries, but (before that) they hosted us in their land and provided us with food when famine had hit Eretz Yisrael. Even for this we are to show a degree of gratitude."

On the other hand, you could become a Karaite Jew; but I already laid out what Romans 7:5-24 says, and Karaites do not believe it. So,

"Now therefore fear the LORD, and serve Him in sincerity and in truth; and put away the gods which your fathers served beyond the River, and in Egypt; and serve ye the LORD. 15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell; but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.'"

The rabbis treat themselves as gods. In Bava Metzi'a 59 of the Talmud, for example:

Why [the oven of] 'Aknai? — Said Rab Judah in Samuel's name: [It means] that they encompassed it with arguments2  as a snake, and proved it unclean. It has been taught: On that day R. Eliezer brought forward every imaginable argument,3  but they did not accept them. Said he to them: 'If the halachah agrees with me, let this carob-tree prove it!' Thereupon the carob-tree was torn a hundred cubits out of its place — others affirm, four hundred cubits. 'No proof can be brought from a carob-tree,' they retorted. Again he said to them: 'If the halachah agrees with me, let the stream of water prove it!' Whereupon the stream of water flowed backwards — 'No proof can be brought from a stream of water,' they rejoined. Again he urged: 'If the halachah agrees with me, let the walls of the schoolhouse prove it,' whereupon the walls inclined to fall. But R. Joshua rebuked them, saying: 'When scholars are engaged in a halachic dispute, what have ye to interfere?' Hence they did not fall, in honour of R. Joshua, nor did they resume the upright, in honour of R. Eliezer; and they are still standing thus inclined. Again he said to them: 'If the halachah agrees with me, let it be proved from Heaven!' Whereupon a Heavenly Voice cried out: 'Why do ye dispute with R. Eliezer, seeing that in all matters the halachah agrees with him!' But R. Joshua arose and exclaimed: 'It is not in heaven.'4  What did he mean by this? — Said R. Jeremiah: That the Torah had already been given at Mount Sinai; we pay no attention to a Heavenly Voice, because Thou hast long since written in the Torah at Mount Sinai, After the majority must one incline.5
R. Nathan met Elijah6  and asked him: What did the Holy One, Blessed be He, do in that hour? — He laughed [with joy], he replied, saying, 'My sons have defeated Me, My sons have defeated Me.

There's The Paradox of Hope and Reality, Because...

Oftentimes, hope and reality do not match up. Expecting the best is a mistake--"Always suspect the worst of others; you'll rarely be disappointed." Always suspect the worst of others and yourself, and you'll be pleasantly surprised when the best happens--just don't expect the best to last long, let alone forever. Even a fruitful septuagenarian or octogenarian life--let alone a nonagenarian or centenarian life--is a gift. Only where hope is, is where the best and better will last forever--and hope is in the Lord alone.

Otherwise, forget even hope: reality, especially without hope, is a screwy business--and what about death, which ends reality in this lifetime for those who are taken by it? If you're going to Heaven, then you know where you're going. But if you're going to Hell (and you probably are if you're unsure if you are [though I'm not talking about if you're just having doubts], or if you're sure that you're not, going to Heaven), take Dante's admonition seriously--"Abandon all hope, ye who enter [Hell]." 

By the way, Hell is a Jewish concept--Scripture aside, "the Talmud [of all books is] quite descriptive of the place we now call hell...The Talmud is much more detailed concerning the fire and darkness of hell, even supplying descriptions concerning its size, divisions and entrance gates." If you need proof, go look at what the P'rushim think about Jesus and Hell.  The P'rushim particularly hated Jesus because, at the very least and a point on which Messianic Jews and Non-Messianic Jews can agree, Jesus "transgress[ed many] of the enactments of the Scribes"--punishment for which, according to the "Scribes", is death and boiling in semen or fecal matter--and the P'rushi scribes exalted themselves, including Eliezer ben-Hyrcanus HaKohen, to be Yehovah: "My son, be more careful in the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah, for in the laws of the Torah there are positive and negative precepts; but, as to the laws of the Scribes, whoever transgresses any of the enactments of the Scribes incurs the penalty of death."

Using the P'rushim as an example, you would best suspect the worst of others--there is no end to how any human being (whether Jewish or gentile, rich or poor, politician or constituent, clergy or layperson, or any other kind of person) can make life Hell enough for even him or her self--much less and/or let alone for others. " Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help....Happy is he whose help is the God of Jacob, whose hope is in the LORD his God". "[P]ut your trust in the LORD."

Sitting Shiva Isn't Always About Physical Death

I know this because I'm well read enough and have delved enough into my own family history. Shiva can be sat when:

1. A child or other relatives intermarries (This happened to the late Ruth McBride Jordan, nee Rachel Deborah Shilsky [Ruchel Dwajra Zylska] when she was even just in a relationship with Dennis McBride.). This normally doesn't happen if a child marries solely a "shvartze"--as the Yiddish pejorative was thrown about back then. This happens if a child marries any gentile who doesn't convert or is not accepted for conversion into Judaism.
2. A child or other relative converts out of particularly Non-Messianic Judaism into--e.g.--Roman Catholicism (or other so-called "denominations of Messianic Judaism [Christianity]"), even if they remain Non Messianic and are merely Anusim. Sometimes, shiva isn't even sat and there's a rowdy hatefest where the convert's "death" or death is celebrated (See "Evel Rabbati", which takes work to find but is worth fighting. As the Anti Semites like to tripe on about and the Karaites note, this is what the P'rushiyin do not want you to know.). The P'rushiyin particularly hated Jesus, and revisionists like to pretend that another Yeshua is mentioned, but all one has to do is look at Bava Metzi'a 59b and the New Testament to get the idea pretty quickly.
3. A child or other relative acts so despicably that the circumstances play out as if he or she is dead, would rather be dead, or would be better off as such.
4. A child or other relative is in circumstances in he or she is dead, would rather be dead, or would be better off as such. For example, a child who is inevitably going to die of terminal cancer and not be miraculously healed may have shiva sat for him ot her early on.

Shiva can always be reversed for the living. For example, Ruth McBride Jordan did get back in touch with one of her cousins who she hadn't seen in years and who was in California. Even relatives who had sat shiva for her (viz. her aunts Mary and Bernadette) had contact with her, even though that contact was telling her that they sat shiva for her and she was to stay out of their lives (which Mary did)--as well as slamming the door in her face when she reached out to them for help (which Bernadette did).

In my own family's case, I have been in touch with Rusnak relatives before. Also, the Czerneckis did write to us once to ask for the deed to be changed. Shiva will also be reversed for Aunt Mary if she ever reaches out to me again (See #3 to give you an idea of what she did. All that I'll say is that, that took hutzpah to cut me off without at least telling me why she would--at least Ruth McBride Jordan's aunt Mary told her that she cut her off and gave her a hint as to why she did.).

Shiva cannot be reversed for the dead (unless they of course miraculously rise again).

The Dangers of Talmudic Thinking For Messianic and Other Certain Jews

A conversation that I had with a friend illustrates how dangerous P'rushiyin groups like Hillel Campus Communities, Outreach Judaism, and MERCAZ are. Since he did comment on a public status and even asked if he could share what I am posting, I'm going to assume that linking to the conversation is okay. By the way, go after me if you want to go after anybody. Actually, go after Yehovah--" 'Why strive ye with me? wherefore do ye try the LORD?' " And see how well going after Yehovah goes--I guarantee that it won't go well. "Hear ye now what the LORD saith: Arise, contend thou before the mountains, and let the hills hear thy voice. 2 Hear, O ye mountains, the LORD'S controversy, and ye enduring rocks, the foundations of the earth; for the LORD hath a controversy with His people, and He will plead with Israel. 3 O My people, what have I done unto thee? And wherein have I wearied thee? Testify against Me. "

The Dangers of Hillel Campus Communities For Messianic and Certain Other Jews

Obviously, UMBC JSU and Hillel taught me to avoid Hillel Camous Communities at all costs. I've heard horror stories about other branches as well. e.g., A kohen was rejected by Princeton Hillel.  "As a college student, my community has caused me an enormous amount of harm. Well-meaning friends advise me to "just convert," with no comprehension of the feeling of having your Jewish roots pulled out from under you. The treatment by my somewhat-learned peers has practical ramifications as well. For the past year, I have ceased attending Friday night dinners at my Hillel to avoid the embarrassment of declining to lead kiddush and motzi and having to explain why. "

This was originally cited as "2. Student at Princeton Hillel Rejected by Other Students after Discovery Mother was a Convert — This story has a better ending than many such stories. The Half-Jewish Network contacted the rabbi, and it is probable that many other people and groups did as well.

"The rabbi reached out to the student involved, set up an open community meeting on the subject, and created a committee to devise new policies for the future that will cut down on this type of incident. Rabbi Julie Roth’s response was impressive, as most Jewish institutions ignore complaints from half-Jewish members."

Of course, their policy on Messianics is "As a result, Outreach Judaism offers lectures on college campuses and in Jewish communities with multilevel informational resources, campus outreach, counseling, discussion groups, and networking with other Jewish organizations that deal with the dangers of the Messianic movement and cults." 

So, get out of any Hillel Campus Community that you are in if you are a Messianic or certain other (e.g., Karaite, Non-Messianic Patrilineal Jew and Talmudi) type of Jew. "For Israel is not widowed, nor Judah, of his God, of the LORD of hosts; for their land is full of guilt against the Holy One of Israel. 6 Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and save every man his life, be not cut off in her iniquity; for it is the time of the LORD'S vengeance; He will render unto her a recompense. 7 Babylon hath been a golden cup in LORD'S hand, that made all the earth drunken; the nations have drunk of her wine, therefore the nations are mad."

I Feel Sorry For Orayta's Wife (If Any Woman Is Unlucky Enough To Be Such)

As the Women of the Wall attempt to follow Tanakh over the P'rushim Talmudim, this P'rushi named Orayta (who apparently never shuts up, even when he knows that he is losing an argument against both man and G-d) steps in (After I'm done preserving these tweets, by the way, Orayta is blocked. Too bad that there isn't a Yad L'Achim antipart who rescues women and others from the likes of Yad L'Achim--who I'm sure that Orayta supports.):

[Addendum: As I was preserving the tweets, Orayta's "Russia" tweet was tweeted and got him blocked:]

1. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear47m

   @oraytw1tter The @Womenofthewall don't worship your g-d; that's for sure--and I don't want to know who your g-d is, since I worship Adonai.

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2. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter42m

   @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Do you honestly believe any deed, even those who contradict Jewish heritage can be called Adonai worshipping?

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3. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear40m

   @oraytw1tter Your deeds certainly can't. The @Womenofthewall follow, e.g., B'midbar 15:37-41--and you dare to have them break a mitzvah?

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4. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter33m

   @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Read Shulchan Aruch and see 4urself wearing talit is arrogancy. Wonen r much superior and close to Gd 2 do so

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5. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear31m

   @oraytw1tter And Tanakh at the least takes precedence over Talmud, which the @Womenofthewall recognize. At most, Talmud isn't Scripture.

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6. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter28m

   @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall If u disregard Talmud then uve proven my point. You can not speak in the name of Judaism

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7. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear26m

   @oraytw1tter @Womenofthewall Actually, G-d disregards Talmud. He told us to neither add nor take from Torah or the rest of Tanakh.

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8. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter23m

   @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Honestly, what have I got else to say to u after showing such a twisted conception in Judaism. Shabat Shalom

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9. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear22m

   @oraytw1tter I (and I think that the @Womenofthewall) hope that you have no more to say. Better that a fool hold his tongue. Shabbat Shalom.

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10. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter17m

    @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Can tefilin be made without tge instructions of oral law? Is there even a 18blessing prayer without Talmud?

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11. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear15m

    @oraytw1tter Why don't you study Yirimiyahu 8? The @Womenofthewall have as far as I can tell. They let Talmud not override Tanakh.

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12. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter12m

    @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Your life philosophy is all a mess

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13. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear11m

    @oraytw1tter So you say. And you persecute the @Womenofthewall for following Tanakh. Your problem is not with women as it is with G-d.

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Orayta‏@oraytw1tter

@Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Stop saying protesting is persecution were not in Russia anymore

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1. 59Women of the Wall ‏@Womenofthewall2h

   we are singing hallel and dancing while haredi protesters throw chairs and water bottles from the crowd

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2. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear1h

   @Womenofthewall And how can they possibly think that they're following G-d? They would do worse to Devorah and Ya'el!

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Orayta‏@oraytw1tter

@Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall They wear talitot to enpower the anarchy of reform Judaism. Provocations and US-exile-confusion.

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1. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear36m

   @oraytw1tter If anarchy is following the mitzvah to wear tzitziyot, then the @Womenofthewall should be anarchists and follow HaShem.

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2. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear34m

   @oraytw1tter By the way, you say that you love Israel. That's bull. You don't even love your achot who are the @Womenofthewall.

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3. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter30m

   @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall I love them, thats why I teit here ciz it hurts. I would never spit or throw chairs at my sisters.

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4. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear29m

   @oraytw1tter Your lashon hara against your achot who are the @Womenofthewall is verbal abuse and persecution--worse than physical violence.

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5. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter23m

   @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Please stop persecuting me

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6. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear22m

   @oraytw1tter You're persecuting the @Womenofthewall, and you responded to my tweet to them. Who's persecuting who again?

1. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear44m

   @oraytw1tter The @Womenofthewall don't worship your g-d; that's for sure--and I don't want to know who your g-d is, since I worship Adonai.

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Orayta‏@oraytw1tter

@Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Do you honestly believe any deed, even those who contradict Jewish heritage can be called Adonai worshipping?

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2:42 AM - 10 May 13

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1. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear36m

   @oraytw1tter Your deeds certainly can't. The @Womenofthewall follow, e.g., B'midbar 15:37-41--and you dare to have them break a mitzvah?

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2. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear35m

   @oraytw1tter Your g-ds are mentioned in 'Amos 5:26-27, by the way; so be careful against speaking lashon hara against the @Womenofthewall.

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3. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear34m

   @oraytw1tter You're only adding to your avodah zara by speaking against @Womenofthewall who attempt not to have their hearts go astray.

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4. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter33m

   @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Protesting against those who want 2 change heritage isnt lashonharah Saying haredi Jews (why state herdi?) is

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5. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear31m

   @oraytw1tter "Herdi" was a typo. The @Womenofthewall are trying to restore the heritage and the glory which you have corrupted.

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6. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter30m

   @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Read Shulchan Aruch and see 4urself wearing talit is arrogancy. Wonen r much superior and close to Gd 2 do so

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7. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear28m

   @oraytw1tter And Tanakh at the least takes precedence over Talmud, which the @Womenofthewall recognize. At most, Talmud isn't Scripture.

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8. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter27m

   @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Ask them and ull see they dont believe every Jew should observe every mitsva. They dont fight my fight

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9. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter25m

   @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall They dont restore my legacy. Women never peayed with talitot in the kotel and sang songs loudly Its propaganda

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10. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear25m

    @oraytw1tter The @Womenofthewall, as you seem to testify, then, know that Tanakh either overrides Talmud or is the only Scripture.

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11. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter24m

    @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall If u disregard Talmud then uve proven my point. You can not speak in the name of Judaism

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12. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear24m

    @oraytw1tter You only show what kind of people persecute the @Womenofthewall and women in general, and that you're one of them is a shame.

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13. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear23m

    @oraytw1tter @Womenofthewall Actually, G-d disregards Talmud. He told us to neither add nor take from Torah or the rest of Tanakh.

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14. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter20m

    @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Honestly, what have I got else to say to u after showing such a twisted conception in Judaism. Shabat Shalom

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15. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear18m

    @oraytw1tter I (and I think that the @Womenofthewall) hope that you have no more to say. Better that a fool hold his tongue. Shabbat Shalom.

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16. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter15m

    @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Is saying halel, praying in the wailing wall or wearing a missing cyan thread talit mentioned in ur torah?

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17. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter14m

    @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Can tefilin be made without tge instructions of oral law? Is there even a 18blessing prayer without Talmud?

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18. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear14m

    @oraytw1tter As long as it doesn't contradict Torah, you ought to leave the @Womenofthewall alone. Besides, G-d looks at intent.

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19. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter14m

    @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Shame on u for using only whats comfortable

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20. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter13m

    @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall God of Christinaity looks at intent. And reform Jews. MY God looks at effort

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21. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear12m

    @oraytw1tter Why don't you study Yirimiyahu 8? The @Womenofthewall have as far as I can tell. They let Talmud not override Tanakh.

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22. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear10m

    @oraytw1tter Your g-d is not that of Shmu'el or that of the @Womenofthewall, then. Go read 1 Shmu'el 16:7.

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23. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter9m

    @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Your life philosophy is all a mess

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24. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear8m

    @oraytw1tter So you say. And you persecute the @Womenofthewall for following Tanakh. Your problem is not with women as it is with G-d.

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1. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear9m

   @oraytw1tter So you say. And you persecute the @Womenofthewall for following Tanakh. Your problem is not with women as it is with G-d.

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2. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear10m

   According to @Wikipedia, Reform Jews are taking a Neo-Karaite approach to reading Tanakh. @TheWomenoftheWall seem to exemplify that.

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3. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear11m

   #Chooseyethiday: are you going to make a case against #Tanakh or #Perushim who called themselves "rabbis" and attempted to pervert Tanakh?

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4. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear12m

   @oraytw1tter Your g-d is not that of Shmu'el or that of the @Womenofthewall, then. Go read 1 Shmu'el 16:7.

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5. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear14m

   @oraytw1tter Why don't you study Yirimiyahu 8? The @Womenofthewall have as far as I can tell. They let Talmud not override Tanakh.

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6. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear16m

   @oraytw1tter As long as it doesn't contradict Torah, you ought to leave the @Womenofthewall alone. Besides, G-d looks at intent.

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7. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear18m

   #Chooseyethiday: are you going to follow #Tanakh or chauvinist #Perushim who called themselves "rabbis" and attempted to pervert Tanakh?

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8. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear19m

   http://www.daatemet.com/articles/article.cfm?article_id=120 … via @yyadan. This is what @WomenoftheWall face for trying to follow Tanakh, as @yyadan explains.

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9. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear21m

   @oraytw1tter I (and I think that the @Womenofthewall) hope that you have no more to say. Better that a fool hold his tongue. Shabbat Shalom.

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10. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear22m

    @Womenofthewall and other women are trying to follow, e.g., B'midbar 15:37-41 & D'varim 21:22, and are persecuted by those who add to Torah.

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11. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear23m

    I hope that everyone can see that @yyadan wasn't kidding about the Talmud. Talmudic Judaism attempts to oppress women like @Womenofthewall.

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12. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear25m

    @oraytw1tter @Womenofthewall Actually, G-d disregards Talmud. He told us to neither add nor take from Torah or the rest of Tanakh.

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13. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear26m

    @oraytw1tter You only show what kind of people persecute the @Womenofthewall and women in general, and that you're one of them is a shame.

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14. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear27m

    @oraytw1tter The @Womenofthewall, as you seem to testify, then, know that Tanakh either overrides Talmud or is the only Scripture.

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15. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear28m

    @oraytw1tter You're persecuting the @Womenofthewall, and you responded to my tweet to them. Who's persecuting who again?

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16. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear30m

    @oraytw1tter And Tanakh at the least takes precedence over Talmud, which the @Womenofthewall recognize. At most, Talmud isn't Scripture.

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17. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear33m

    @oraytw1tter "Herdi" was a typo. The @Womenofthewall are trying to restore the heritage and the glory which you have corrupted.

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18. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear35m

    @oraytw1tter Your lashon hara against your achot who are the @Womenofthewall is verbal abuse and persecution--worse than physical violence.

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19. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear36m

    @oraytw1tter You're only adding to your avodah zara by speaking against @Womenofthewall who attempt not to have their hearts go astray.

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20. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear37m

    @oraytw1tter Your g-ds are mentioned in 'Amos 5:26-27, by the way; so be careful against speaking lashon hara against the @Womenofthewall.

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21. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear39m

    @oraytw1tter Your deeds certainly can't. The @Womenofthewall follow, e.g., B'midbar 15:37-41--and you dare to have them break a mitzvah?

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22. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear40m

    @oraytw1tter By the way, you say that you love Israel. That's bull. You don't even love your achot who are the @Womenofthewall.

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23. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear42m

    @oraytw1tter If anarchy is following the mitzvah to wear tzitziyot, then the @Womenofthewall should be anarchists and follow HaShem.

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24. 57N. Mara Czarnecki ‏@Nickidewbear46m

    @oraytw1tter The @Womenofthewall don't worship your g-d; that's for sure--and I don't want to know who your g-d is, since I worship Adonai.

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1. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter9m

   @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Your life philosophy is all a mess

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2. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter13m

   @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall God of Christinaity looks at intent. And reform Jews. MY God looks at effort

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3. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter14m

   @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Shame on u for using only whats comfortable

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4. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter15m

   @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Can tefilin be made without tge instructions of oral law? Is there even a 18blessing prayer without Talmud?

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5. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter16m

   @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Is saying halel, praying in the wailing wall or wearing a missing cyan thread talit mentioned in ur torah?

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6. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter21m

   @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Honestly, what have I got else to say to u after showing such a twisted conception in Judaism. Shabat Shalom

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7. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter25m

   @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall If u disregard Talmud then uve proven my point. You can not speak in the name of Judaism

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8. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter26m

   @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall They dont restore my legacy. Women never peayed with talitot in the kotel and sang songs loudly Its propaganda

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9. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter28m

   @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Please stop persecuting me

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10. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter28m

    @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Ask them and ull see they dont believe every Jew should observe every mitsva. They dont fight my fight

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11. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter30m

    @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Read Shulchan Aruch and see 4urself wearing talit is arrogancy. Wonen r much superior and close to Gd 2 do so

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12. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter33m

    @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Protesting against those who want 2 change heritage isnt lashonharah Saying haredi Jews (why state herdi?) is

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13. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter35m

    @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall I love them, thats why I teit here ciz it hurts. I would never spit or throw chairs at my sisters.

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14. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter40m

    @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall Do you honestly believe any deed, even those who contradict Jewish heritage can be called Adonai worshipping?

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15. 25Orayta ‏@oraytw1tter42m

    @Nickidewbear @Womenofthewall They wear talitot to enpower the anarchy of reform Judaism. Provocations and US-exile-confusion.

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